Yes the kibble is packed full of crap , i should have been more clear i meant the pouches. Thier not keen on them so i dont buy many, used to have a freezer full (500pounds) of tripe , chicken, fish, turkey necks . lamb , these days its just Lilith and Loki .Not in the freezer i mean .
I only go for wheat gluten free because I dont think it helps with either bloat or skin problems, way way back i switched to a cheap food that was not wheat gluten free and the dogs always looked more full , i could tell then as i only had smooth chows .
Only ever had one case of bloat touch wood, and that was totaly unrelated as far as i could tell to anything food related. The dog in question used to puke up fur balls like a bloody cat , so i think maybe he bit off more than he could chew , which would have been typical of Pagan the Goat the old black bastard , bless him.