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Beginners Questions / Re: Tank swap
« Last post by hotashes on Today at 9:26:09 am »
Cool. Okay next question...
I stirred up the water and something silly this morning grinding the new rock through the sand so it’s seated on the bottom of the tank.

Does the water need to be sparkling clear of silt in the water before livestock goes in?


It should be fine, my only concern would be testing for ammonia, nitrite and nitrate.

Any pics?
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Beginners Questions / Re: Tank swap
« Last post by Tavernor on Today at 7:51:12 am »
Cool. Okay next question...
I stirred up the water and something silly this morning grinding the new rock through the sand so it’s seated on the bottom of the tank.

Does the water need to be sparkling clear of silt in the water before livestock goes in?
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Beginners Questions / Re: Tank swap
« Last post by hotashes on May 24, 2018 9:56:41 pm »
Here’s another one... I’ve never run a skimmer (ignore how divisive that may be) and the nano never crashed, common sense kept it alive. If I run the new bigger tank the same (but with more, livestock (but relative, to the size the same), do I need a skimmer more because more fish = more waste or less because more water = more forgiving parameters?

To be frank, I would have the skimmer especially if you plan on adding fish along the journey.
Now this will be beneficial because it removes nutrients which will only convert and be soaked up by the rocks/sand.  So as lots of people experience, the more you let nutrients hang around the higher chance algae will form.  Another story :)

A.
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Beginners Questions / Re: Tank swap
« Last post by Tavernor on May 24, 2018 9:51:47 pm »
Here’s another one... I’ve never run a skimmer (ignore how divisive that may be) and the nano never crashed, common sense kept it alive. If I run the new bigger tank the same (but with more, livestock (but relative, to the size the same), do I need a skimmer more because more fish = more waste or less because more water = more forgiving parameters?
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Beginners Questions / Re: Tank swap
« Last post by Tavernor on May 24, 2018 9:43:43 pm »
Cheers for all the help guys :)
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Beginners Questions / Re: Tank swap
« Last post by hotashes on May 24, 2018 7:59:58 pm »
Not right now but I’ll post some tomorrow: :) I didn’t wash the sand which frustrates me as I knew I should! Set up tanks before and never forgotten but somehow did this time round. I’ll test the water regularly as routine, I think the short version of my question earlier was whether I needed to let the tank cycle of its own accord or not... that would have been a bit more succinct..! 

Another question, the new rock was just short of 14kg dry, assuming it’s super porous (it definitely is), what is the wet actual weight likely to be?


You can let the tank certainly cycle fishless, and just sit out the timeframe.  However, if you've got established liverock I'd certainly say it's ok to transfer everything over (not the sand in current state).

Remember the larger volume of water, allows for more generosity on the parameter levels.  However by not adding more fish, you're just having the same inhabitants just in a bigger tank.  So all the unseeded rock will catch up whilst the current LR does the breakdown of ammonia, NitrIte and NitrAte.  Sometimes it is advised to know if any new rock being added contains phosphates IMO, but again some people don't even test for them and go by visual signs :)

As for weight of wet rock, I'm not sure I can give you that answer.  I'd probably weigh a big piece try, then wet it and weigh it again.  Then do the math.

A.
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General Reef Discussions / Re: Water changes Yes or No?
« Last post by The land shark on May 24, 2018 7:59:36 pm »
£15 for 250 ml @25ml / week is 10 weeks so i would say no.

however by dosing daily i keep a balance which you dont get doing water changes once a week/ fortnight or month whatever your regime. For me it is more stable. As for cost, well this is the wrong hobby to worry about a few quid lol 😁🖒
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Beginners Questions / Re: Tank swap
« Last post by Tavernor on May 24, 2018 7:51:10 pm »
Not right now but I’ll post some tomorrow: :) I didn’t wash the sand which frustrates me as I knew I should! Set up tanks before and never forgotten but somehow did this time round. I’ll test the water regularly as routine, I think the short version of my question earlier was whether I needed to let the tank cycle of its own accord or not... that would have been a bit more succinct..! 

Another question, the new rock was just short of 14kg dry, assuming it’s super porous (it definitely is), what is the wet actual weight likely to be?
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Beginners Questions / Tank swap
« Last post by hotashes on May 24, 2018 7:26:19 pm »
No problems if only a tiny amount was moved, in fact it's better to add little if not none of the old sand in current state (anaerobic state sand will cause spike in any tank if stirred up).  Did you rinse new sand clean?
Just don't add any new fish during transfer as the old rock will have enough bacteria to handle current bio load no issues.

Also keep an eye on ammonia, nitrIte and nitrate for first 24/48 hours to be safe.

Do you have any current pictures of both set ups?

A.
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Beginners Questions / Re: Tank swap
« Last post by Tavernor on May 24, 2018 7:20:07 pm »
It’s got 30kg or new sand in, I seeded it with a pound or so of  the nanos sand last week. Does that change things? I can move more from the nano over but it’s rather old and tired looking...
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