My Evo 13.5.

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That's good mate, the flow is definitely improved once you block chamber 2, tbh the filter is actually getting bypassed if you don't block it, the only reason fluval done this was to make sure chamber 3 doesn't run dry if you forget to top it up, your definitely taking the right approach by going slow and the goby would make a nive first fish for it aswell, a wee tip if you know your going to want more fish try and plan for what you want so that you can put the least aggressive fish in first and the most aggressive in last, that helps to stop tank bullying, how are you finding it so far?

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Good to know mate I’ll remember that.


I’m lovin it so far, I mean apart from the Heater trouble it’s been pretty smooth sailing as there’s nothing to really go wrong yet but just buying/making small little upgrades for the Tank is already becoming pretty addictive.
I spend more time looking at the Tank than I thought I would at this stage seeing as there’s nothing really in it (nothing visible at least), so when I’ve got a few Corals and Critters in there I’ll be glued to it lol.


I’ve wanted to get into the hobby for a few years now, started reading a lot about it, got a few quid together but at the last minute bottled it as I just saw one to many Build threads go dead suddenly, that and having no hands on experience with any kind of Tank got me nervous.
The itch didn’t go away for long though, a few months ago I found myself reading about it again and just thought....what’s the worst that could happen!

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That's great mate I'm glad your enjoying it, lol I know the feeling, you'll definitely be glued to it once you have some life in it, it is a bit daunting to take the plunge but as you said if you've done a bit of reading and you want one you can definitely figure it out and have a really nice tank to show for it, I'm very new to this aswell and touch wood haven't had any problems, the evo is a great wee tank

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Oh you’re pretty new to this as well, For some reason I just assumed you’d been doing it for a while.
Good to hear you’ve been problem free and I can see from your Build Thread that your Tank’s doing great!
Must be a great feeling when you see new growth on your Corals and know it’s all working properly.

I tested my parameters again today and Ammonia’s dropping to 0ppm in just over 24 hours, Nitrite’s a little behind taking just over 48 hours to come down so getting there.
I redosed again today so will see where I’m at tomorrow.


Last Edit: Jan 19, 2020 2:19:06 am by Esoteric

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Ammonia and Nitrite have come right down again, Ammonia to 0ppm in just over 24 hours, Nitrite dropped to 0.2ppm in 48 so have dosed Ammonia again today.


I have Diatoms popping up now in the Tank, a few patches on the Rock and Sand so looks like it’s starting to get to the next stage.
I’m going to order a QT Tank and get that setup over the next few days hopefully, ready for a Watchman Goby to go in.
 

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Thanks lol I suppose I must be doing something right if you thought I knew what I'm talking about, like yourself I've just done plenty reading up on stuff and learned lots as I go, I did have plenty freshwater background though so not totally new to fish, I'm sure you will go just aswell

Excellent news mate your definitely onto the next stage, the ugly stage it's known as unfortunately as you start to get diatoms and other algae growing, as soon as your cycled it would be good to get some clean up crew in the form of nassarius snails and some hermit crabs to keep on top of it all, also don't feed your first fish everyday, every 2-3 days is fine and only have your lights on for 8 hours, I only say this because I didn't do this and had quite an algae battle which I got under control by picking it out and found out what was causing it, I was overfeeding and lights running for 16 hours a day, in hindsight I'd definitely start with 8 hours and small infrequent feedings, I'd guess you'll be fully cycled in a few days to a week now, have you got your lights running just now?

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I was thinking exactly that, Narssarius Snails and Hermits (great minds think alike lol), do you think 3 N Snails and 2 Hermits will be ok to start? Then add more if needed.
I’m not going to have a Fish in the DT for a little while as I’m going to QT so I’ll be feeding a few pellets to keep the CUC going if there’s not much Algae about, also if the CUC do ok I want to get a Shrimp in there, I’m thinking Pistol Shrimp now to hopefully pair up with the Watchman Goby I want to buy.

Do you think the waste from the Shrimp, CUC and the left over food that I feed them will be enough to keep the Bacteria in the Tank at a good level until a Fish goes in?


Edit, yeah I’ve been running the Lights for about the last week, about 8 hours a day as I wanted to try and get a little Algae in there ready for a CUC, I was thinking if it got out of hand I’d just shut them off for a few days but so far there’s just a few patches of Diatoms on the Rocks and Sand Bed.
Thanks for the advice, I’ll make sure not to put them on to much, does the Blue spectrum also grow Algae or is that ok to run longer?
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I think 3 nassarius snails would be fine or possibly even overkill, I have 2 in mine and they keep my sand spotless, you hardly ever see them but you'll see that their doing their job, the cleanup crew and shrimp don't really produce much waste or add any bioload to a tank that's why you can pretty much add as many as you want so there wouldn't be much for the bacteria to feed on, if I were you I'd just pop the first fish in without qt as your newly cycled tank would pretty much be qt conditions anyway, I know some people feel a need to qt but I've stocked all my fish without qt and everyone is doing great, I'd possibly consider it if I had a larger tank and really expensive fish but acclimation by floating the bags and adding small amounts of tank water every 10 mins for about half an hour seems to do the job, I'm not 100% on the light question but I'd imagine algae could grow under most light spectrums so blue wouldn't stop it completely, it would definitely grow faster under white lighting though and less under the blue in the stock light as there would be less led lights on so less light for the algae to use

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Ok 2 Nassarius sound good to start with then.


Yeah I was thinking of just putting the Fish in without QT as I’m only gonna get this one for a little time.
I asked at my LFS and they keep their Salinity low at 1.018 and from what I’ve been reading you should acclimatise pretty slowly from that sort of Salinity but that brings problems with Ammonia build up in the bags.
So what I’m going to do now is set up a small QT to match the LFS Salinity and get the Fish in there, then bring up the Salinity to match my DT over about a week and also observe the Fish to make sure it’s looking good and doing well, then if all’s good put it in the DT.


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Yeah I'd say 2 nassarius snails are definitely worth having, I have 2 of those, 2 hermit crabs a cleaner shrimp and I just got 2 turbo snails yesterday although I added my first 2 turbos too soon and they died not having enough algae to eat so I'd wait before adding those, that's strange to hear a lfs running tanks with that low salinity, I've heard 1.022 for fish only set ups and 1.026-1.027 with corals so id have thought they would have done 1.027 aswell, I'd imagine everyone buying from that lfs must find it a pain to acclimate to their tanks, what I'd maybe do is lower your tanks salinity to about 1.022 acclimate your first fish into that and let evaporation raise your salinity and don't top up if you can or use saltwater and that will raise it slowly over a few days, I'm interested to see what others think about that, I'd be querying a shop with that low salinity though it seems to me their trying to cheap out on salt and not thought about their customers having to try and put a fish into a 1.027 tank

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Reply #25

Ok 2 Nassarius sound good to start with then.


Yeah I was thinking of just putting the Fish in without QT as I’m only gonna get this one for a little time.
I asked at my LFS and they keep their Salinity low at 1.018 and from what I’ve been reading you should acclimatise pretty slowly from that sort of Salinity but that brings problems with Ammonia build up in the bags.
So what I’m going to do now is set up a small QT to match the LFS Salinity and get the Fish in there, then bring up the Salinity to match my DT over about a week and also observe the Fish to make sure it’s looking good and doing well, then if all’s good put it in the DT.


Cheers Reefer!

Yeah, that is annoying.  Good plan to match your QT to their params. .😎

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Reefermad & ajm83,

Yeah I thought it was a bit dodge running their Fish Tanks that low, they run Copper as well but I think that’s pretty common in Shops.
It’s strange though because all their Reef Tanks look great! Lots of really colourful, thriving Corals so it looks like they care about what they’re doing.

How’s your Turbo Snails settling in Reefer?

I’m going to do my first water change today! The Nirite still isn’t coming down in 24 hours but always gone in 48 so I’ve put a couple more small pieces of the Carabsea Life Rock in, I’m also going to get some Seachem Matrix for the Sump so I have more surface area for the Bacteria to colonise.
Nitrates are through the roof though and Ammonia is always gone within 24 hours so I think I’m pretty much cycled.
I’ve read a lot recently about Nitrite (No2) not being toxic like many think in a Marine Tank (only really toxic in Freshwater) and that when the Ammonia’s going within 24 hours consistently your Tank’s cycled.
I’m going to get my Nitrates down, dose once more and if my Ammonia’s gone like it has been for the last week or so, pick up a couple of Hermit’s and Narssaruis Snails, maybe a small Trochus Snail if they’ve got one as the Diatom is in bloom.

You guys think that sounds ok?
Last Edit: Jan 28, 2020 4:41:11 pm by Esoteric

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It’s Alive, ALIVE!

Nice little update for the Tank.

I waited a few more days just to make sure everything seemed good to go and then went and picked up my first Critters! (Well I was a little busy that morning so got a mate to collect them for me), I brought 2 “Scarlet Legged” Hermit Crabs and 2 Narssarius Snails.
I drip acclimated them over about an hour and a half, floating them in the Tank and dripping from a bottle suspended above it, looked like some sort of medical procedure was going on but did the job.
I didn’t really look at them to much in the bag and it wasn’t until I put them in the Tank and had a proper look that I saw they had Orange and Black striped Legs! They’d sold me Halloween Hermit Crabs instead but from what I’ve read they are still pretty Reef safe, though they do get bigger so I’ll just play it by ear and see what happens down the road.

That was on Friday and all is doing well (touch wood), one of the Hermit’s was really active from the first moment, climbing over the Rocks and eating but the other didn’t move much, only in short bursts.
The next day after putting it in the Tank it didn’t move for around 24 hours but since then it’s been all over the Tank like the other so looking good.
The Nas Snails are also doing well, being a small Tank I can often find them in the sand and the way they emerge as soon as I put a little Mysis in is pretty cool.

The Diatom bloom has receded back, disappeared from most of the Rock and looks like it run its course, there’s still only a very small amount of Algae growing so I’ve been feeding the Hermits and Nas Snails a little Mysis Shrimp and a few Formular 2 Pellets to keep them going until I get Fish, also put a small square of Nori (Seaweed) in now and again and saw a Hermit going to town on it yesterday.
Tested for Ammonia, Nitrite and Nitrate, the first Two are 0ppm and Nitrate at 5ppm so very pleased so far!
Going to pick up a Phosphate Test in the next couple of days so I can keep that in check.
Oh I also noticed a tiny Hitchhiker that’s living in a small hole on one of the Hermit’s Shells, it runs in and out of it at night and I’ve seen it a few times now, I think it’s an Gammarus Amphipod or something similar, hopefully it’s not anything bad but time will tell.

Couple of pic’s of the Hermit’s....

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Reply #28

Hermits are cute, but little bulldozers. Mount any frags well when it comes the time otherwise they'll be on the sandbed

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Always see those guys in the shop but never had any in my tank.  Will be interested in how you get on with them. Might want to add some shells of roughly the right size for them to play with.

Ps. great pics!

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