HK's white spot (Marine Ich) outbreak

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I'm one going through it im going fallow 16 weeks not prepared to go through the loss again my first wipeout was nearly £1000 worth of fish that hurt ones pocket and sad watching them fish die :(

I will QT everything in future

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I lost the anthias that had it's eye damaged whilst in quarantine a couple of days ago.  It's eye had been swollen, then reduced swelling and cloudy, then swollen again, for months now.  It seems it finally gave up, as there was just the socket there for about a week, and I guess that led to an infection, as the fish stopped eating, and died.

That left me with one fully healthy looking anthias, a royal gramma and a pair of clowns.  Today I noticed some spots on the anthias' eye, so took a closer look and saw small white spots all over it.  I looked at the other fish, and I can see a few spots on the royal gramma, and it has flicked off the sand a couple of times.  Nothing noticeable on the clowns.

It's classic whitespot symptoms!  I don't know what else i could do to prevent disease in my tank!  I've had all the rock, coral, snails, shrimps and crabs in a fallow tank for 8-9 months, and all the fish have been through a month of Chlorquine Phosphate QT, with dips in Myzaxin and a bath in Sera Tremazol before they went into the DT.  That should tak care of the vast majority of diseases and parasites.

I'm so fucking angry!

I've spent a small fortune on this setup, and I really don't want to have to start over, quit, etc.  I might do as @Marty has done, and try just feeding and hoping they battle through it.  My worry is that I'd be sitting on a timebomb.
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Reply #107

I gave up with QT months back they just get chucked in and I just feed and they get on with it.

After my big water change 1450L due to doser issue my powder blue was plastered in WS but all other tangs have been fine and the blue now looking better and still nothing on any other fish I just kept it feeding what will be will be and it does scoff plenty of food. I hardly feed frozen now though it's mainly flake and pellet.

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Reply #108

What a nightmare, hope they pull through for you HK.
There's a fine line between success and failure like there's a difference between surviving and thriving and we are all striving for a thriving success.

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Reply #109

I feel for you, I've lost a Kole tang and 2 clowns to ws in the last few weeks.

I have stripped my tank down and treating my goby, Royal grammar and 3 chromis with avloclor and all getting there colour back and healthy now but in sh@@ing it moving corals over to new tank when it turns up.
I was recommended this by ed at mha

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Reply #110

That's what I feed mine and Dr bassleer acai. The Aloe one is also good for boosting their immune system.
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Reply #111

It's got to be the forte one as it helps there immune system fight ws

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Gutted for u hope they get through it

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Anthias is dead
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Reply #114

Gutted mate, do you think it is ws?

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Reply #115

@HK_Fuey  Sorry to read how things are going , Just as a suggestion could there maybe be something else wrong that isn't as obvious stressing your fish bringing on the white spot , possible internal infection or something and the results is the white spot showing first due to the stress .
Occasionally used to get quite random things with cichlids I've kept over the years , the worst was 'bloat' in certain species it would always appear in fish about 6 month old and wipe out half stock of certain species , even though others in the tank were perfectly fine and showed no symptoms and survived , the last instance I had was with 6 red tiger motas , grew fine all healthy got to about the six month old mark and 4 of the 6 died within 24 hours the only sign was they weren't as eager to feed the night before . The other fish besides the red motas in the tank were also all fine .

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Reply #116

It's certainly possible.  Who knows?

What baffles me is how it got in there.  I've gone down the erradication route, rather than the management route.  Fallow DT, and all fish have been in QT and treated with Chloroquine, which should both kill ich (so say the experts). The anthias that wasn't eating seems to have spurred the whole thing.  Anthias are often picky eaters, and I picked these ones as they are bigger, and so eater bigger foods (normally).  They were all feeding in the QT, and one scratched it's eye, but was otherwise fine.  Once in the DT, one turned very picky, and you could see it trying food and spitting it out, then eating another bit.  After a while you could see it had a sunken stomach, and started losing weight.  I tried all sorts of foods, but it never put weight on.  That one died, then the one with the scratched eye, lost it's eye, and seemed to go downhill quickly.  That died, then I had the whitespot kill the last one.

The RG still has spots, and I think the clowns have a couple of spots now.

Fucking gutted!
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Reply #117

I really feel for you but no matter what I have tried WS remains I have tried QT and everything as I've said before.

The only way I'm likely to 100% rid the system is remove all corals and inverts and go FOWLR and run copper permanently but I like the corals but if it should strike badly that's the route I would go FOWLR with copper.

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Reply #118

Nightmare, hope u find a way to sort it out

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Reply #119

@Marty I've been thinking about FOWLR but I love the colour and movement from the corals too.

I'm thinking of buying the biggest UV I can get and letting that hopefully keep numbers low enough it's not able to get a good grip in the future.

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