How to cure Marine White Spot, Ich, Cryptocaryon Irritans

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They seem to be fighting it pretty well atm. My hope is building up an immunity to it but I might end up gutting the whole tank..


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2 X clowns (never had any spots)
2 X bannghai cardinals (never had any spots)
1 X Foxface (had a few spots a few weeks ago been fine for ages now) obviously could come back
1 X bicolour Angel fish (same as Foxface)
1 X Royal gramma (recently had a few spots gone now)


The powder blue was getting a bit stressed as he was rubbing on the rocks and I didn't want him to hurt himself so I took him and the yellow tang out (yellow seemed fine a spot or 2) but being tangs I had to keep them together if I separated them they would probably attach each other when they got reunited..


I am still ready to do the remove everything and jump throu all the hoops if needed but wanted to build up the hospital tank and try and sort out filtration by only adding the fish that were ill.. The more fish the more waste/ammonia I would need to sort.


Fingers crossed I don't need to empty the whole DT but if I need to to save the fish then I will.


Purchased a fish trap also to help catch the fish as I have way to many caves to use a net :(

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Reply #16

You sure it's Ich?  A few spots doesn't sound like it.  It starts like that, but spread to hundreds in a day or so.  Then it drops off and everything looks clear, then it comes back with a vengeance.

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Reply #17

I assume so.. Again still new to this hobby.. What other things could it be? White spots on the side fins and a few on the body.. Seem to appear then disappear a few days later.. Fish seemed to rub on the rocks when's they have it?

I saw the pics of your fish when they had it and they were totally covered nothing like what I have had..

Any ideas?

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Reply #18

I was thinking lymphocystis, but not if it comes and goes.  It can be other small parasites too, such as parasitic copepods, flukes, etc.

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I have read that parasites cannot host on Gobys' due to their mucus coating, if this is correct can my diamond goby remain in the tank during a fallow period ? My new QT / treatment tank does not have a sand bed and it may cause distress if I put it in here as it always burrows. All of my fish except for one cleaner wrass, some green chromis and the Goby are now dead but I am puzzled as to why the chromis are not affected.


Thanks in advance for any help / information

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Reply #20

No that's not true about gobies. The parasites can still affect their gills even if the slime coat protects their body (which I'm not 100% convinced of anyway)

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Reply #21

Ok so my best course of action is to put the Goby, Wrass and Chromis into the QT / Treatment tank and treat with copper then, once the treatment course has elapsed, leave them in with no treatment until the DT has been fallow for 8 -9 weeks ?

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Reply #22

I would definitely put them in QT and leave the display fallow, I'm not totally sure on those particular fishes being okay with copper though.

@HK_Fuey might be able to confirm?

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Reply #23

Those fish should be fine with copper:
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But the most sensitive of fishes (e.g., dwarf angelfishes, some large angelfishes, some tangs, and scaleless fishes (sharks, rays, eels, etc.)) could not be treated with this form of copper.

The issues with sand in the QT:
1. it can absorb some of the copper
2. it stops you cleaning the bottom, thereby removing any cysts that drop to the bottom

I'd recommend using Chloroquine Phosphate if you can find someone local that will give/sell you some, or order online and it'll be there in a day or two.  You can leave the sand in then (take some from the top layer in the DT as it'll have loads of good bacteria to keep ammonia and nitrite at bay).

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Reply #24

It may be complete rubbish but when I used to keep marines in the early eighties everything was based on under gravel filters, as these pull water down through the sand bed (quite dramatically if using power heads) is it possible that cysts that drop off of the fish onto the sandbed and subsequently hatch cannot overcome the downward pull of the water to become free swimming again or at least only a very few make it back onto a fish ? All of the time I used undergravel filters, albeit with a large UV unit and Ozone reactor I never suffered from white spot and I am sure LFS husbandry was of a much poorer quality back then.

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It may be complete rubbish but when I used to keep marines in the early eighties everything was based on under gravel filters, as these pull water down through the sand bed (quite dramatically if using power heads) is it possible that cysts that drop off of the fish onto the sandbed and subsequently hatch cannot overcome the downward pull of the water to become free swimming again or at least only a very few make it back onto a fish ? All of the time I used undergravel filters, albeit with a large UV unit and Ozone reactor I never suffered from white spot and I am sure LFS husbandry was of a much poorer quality back then.

Sounds a great explanation actually


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@HK_Fuey

Well done on having the most successful thread on the site from search engine traffic. This thread is our number one source of traffic from search engines, with people coming in for these top ten search terms.

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Pleased it's helped a few people.  I'm still Ich free after several years of being diligent with putting all fish, corals and inverts through QT.


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