Ich Treatment - copper doesn't seem to be working

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OK, so I learned my lesson, went on holiday a couple of months back, came back to find pretty much every fish dead due to Ich.  Tried managing with UV and Ozone - no luck, so I'm onto QT.

Everything is now in QT.  I followed the Cupramine instructions to start with and hit it for 14 days - it came back on one clown fairly quickly, I messaged them and they said go for 28 days.  I've been testing the copper levels and they are right.  All fish have been in QT for just over 2 weeks now and the one clown still has the spots quite clearly so I'm ready to try something else.

I'm torn between going for hypo salinity and the tank transfer method - what have other people found successful?  Also if I go for the hypo method what's the best thing to buffer the PH with?

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Reply #1

Something odd going is on there.

Copper is very effective at killing the swimming stage of marine ich, and AFAIK the stage where they are attached to the host lasts only 7 days MAX.

What brand of kit are you using? Some will give a false result with Cupramine (something to do with the type of copper they use).

Just checking as well that you've dosed enough for salt water (think it's 0.5ppm from memory), not the freshwater dose...?


Anyway I'd recommend keeping the main tank fallow for a much longer period than 28 days otherwise they could be infected again.
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The main tank is staying fallow for 90 days mate! It's about 40 in at the minute - it can survive up to 72 days apparently, but I'm going belt and braces!


Yes - definitely marine dose and its only the 2 clowns that appear to have anything on them, wrasse, Tangs, Damsels, goby's are all fine.  Test kit is the Salifert one (Seachem themselves said to use  either their own or Salifert as they're the ones that can read it)

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The main tank is staying fallow for 90 days mate! It's about 40 in at the minute - it can survive up to 72 days apparently, but I'm going belt and braces!


Yes - definitely marine dose and its only the 2 clowns that appear to have anything on them, wrasse, Tangs, Damsels, goby's are all fine.  Test kit is the Salifert one (Seachem themselves said to use  either their own or Salifert as they're the ones that can read it)

Sounds like you're doing everything right then.

Chloroquine phosphate is another treatment option but to be honest I thought copper was the most effective.

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Yeah - that's why I'm confused that I can't shift it off of these 2 clowns.  I think I may move them into a QT on their own and try the Hypo Salinity on everything - see what happens.


I'm just wondering what other peoples experiences are with Hypo and what they used to buffer the PH up

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Reply #5

Does seem really strange that copper hasn't shifted it.

I'd highly recommend Chloroquine Phosphate.  I had 2 complete wipeouts due to ich. So, after hypo the first time and a mix of hypo and copper the second time, I decided to do CP. I've not seen any parasites in 3 years now!

I have a thread on how to cure ich on here.
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