Ich or velvet advice

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Hi everyone I lost my fish 7 weeks ago to ich or velvet  they all died in a 2 day gap the only survivor I had was a diamond goby I’ve stupidly not done enough research I read a few places that a gobys slime coat protects itself from ich with only 3 weeks to go for a 10 week gap from adding fish again do I need to remove the goby and start from day 1 again or is the goby safe to stay in the tank during this whole process thanks for reading

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Reply #1

Oh no, that's a shame.  :s
It would be best to move it, treat it with copper or another method suited to that fish (I'd Google it, some are sensitive to one method or another) and start again.

Ive had to do this myself so I know how annoying it is!

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Thanks for the reply is it 100% reproducing off the goby or is it a hit and miss I don’t have a quarantine tank yet he has no visible signs of carrying ich so without sacrificing a fish to test if it’s gone is there any other way to identify ich I the water?

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Reply #3

I think it's highly likely to still be present. The problem is it can hide out in the fishes gills so you won't necessarily see it. But even a single parasite left in there can start the whole lot off again.  :'(

You can set up a QT for under £50, i originally used a sturdy food storage box, cheapie heater and wavemaker plus some cheap filter media from ebay.  Think the whole lot was about £30.

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Ah that sucks 7 weeks of no fish and have to restart that sucks thanks for the help really appreciated

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Reply #5

Ah that sucks 7 weeks of no fish and have to restart that sucks thanks for the help really appreciated

I know man, sucks big time. You probably know this but just a reminder - if you do quarantine him,  keep the quarantine tank far away from the main one and don't share any equipment between them (e.g. nets etc).

I was reading up on goby's tolerance to copper and it's not good, so i suggest you take care when dosing not to overdose. 👍🏻  Not sure if they're okay with Chloroquin Phosphate treatment @HK_Fuey might know?
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Reply #6

It's up to you of course, but it comes down to risk. Ich reproduces on fish. I held onto hope my mandarin goby would be fine (slime coating reduces the likelihood, but it's a myth it makes them invulnerable), but it ended up getting it, and dying (as did all the others...twice!). I've since always quarantined everything. All fish get prophylactically treated with Chloroquine Phosphate, de-wormer, and anti-bacterial dip. All corals, shrimps, snails, etc. get 10 weeks in a fishless tank. 4 years on now, and no issues with Ich.

Take a look at this:
https://reefbase.co.uk/marine-fish-diseases/marine-white-spot-ich-cryptocaryon-irritans/
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That’s really helpful il try and find a place to put my goby look for a cheap tank for sale thanks for all the help

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It's up to you of course, but it comes down to risk. Ich reproduces on fish. I held onto hope my mandarin goby would be fine (slime coating reduces the likelihood, but it's a myth it makes them invulnerable), but it ended up getting it, and dying (as did all the others...twice!).

Woah, that's some nasty disease that kills fish twice!!! lol

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Reply #9

Sorry to hear the bad news , never good .
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Reply #10

In a emergency situation for a quarantine tank for you're remaining goby you can do this ...
New bucket clean with saltwater .
Put some gravel in bottom about 2 inch deep air stone and heater and a bit of live rock .
This is only a emergency remedy while you sort out you're tank .
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Managed to pick up a 20 litre tank last night with heater and pump for £5 on gumtree hopefully the goby will be okay just temporary in there

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Reply #12

Well done mate,
Keep this tank safe somewhere for future use just in case ,
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Reply #13

Thanks yea never again once all this is done will I add fish to my dt without quarantine

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Thanks yea never again once all this is done will I add fish to my dt without quarantine
I've been keeping marine for 17 years plus , inverts too ,
Trying different things along the way, I even managed to breed lysmatta shrimp once (not on purpose was a natural fluke ) but sadly couldn't keep the babies past 20 days
It's a constant learning curve, there's stuff people are doing I never heard of so all we can do is try our best and hope we get it right if not then we know for next time or just ask for help , no shame in asking even the silliest question we all done it , I still ask , at least you have somewhere to ask and have loads of friends on here that are always willing to help with advice and their experience and you will no doubt be giving that advice to others too , were all one big extended family on here .
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