Flame angel has white spot. Help

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Reply #15

Only way to get it out of your system is 3 month fallow no reef same treatment will kill it simple as that.

Only thing that will is copper but you will never be able to have corals or inverts in there again.

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Reply #16

This is why I strongly recommend a qt.
Mine is a jewel 125 rio off ebay £30, I only fill tank half full of water due to less costs of meds and water changes.
cheap sponge filter £8
couple of pvc tubing Free
2 bits of rock Free
Atu off ebay £18.
Cheap Chinese light £5, Used just to check on fish (fish don't need lighting)
That's it
Total £61, Flame Angel £80 plus other possible livestock loss
Its a no brainer for me.
Anyway I hope it sorts itself out without too much problems.

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Reply #17

Hi James, it could be because your tank is still very young it could be causing stress on the angels even if all your parameters are fine. It takes 6-12 months to mature. What made you decide to get another flame? They really are an expensive learning curve.
I wasn't aware they needed a very mature tank. I can't tell you why I tried another so soon it was the only fish I wanted the Mrs has picked the rest. I hoping it shakes it off.

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This is why I strongly recommend a qt.
Mine is a jewel 125 rio off ebay £30, I only fill tank half full of water due to less costs of meds and water changes.
cheap sponge filter £8
couple of pvc tubing Free
2 bits of rock Free
Atu off ebay £18.
Cheap Chinese light £5, Used just to check on fish (fish don't need lighting)
That's it
Total £61, Flame Angel £80 plus other possible livestock loss
Its a no brainer for me.
Anyway I hope it sorts itself out without too much problems.

Will this being easy to say sometimes people don't have the space for a QT tank. There are also points you can't be aware of. In 9 out of 10 cases those who have quarantine tanks have tanks that small it's not suitable for the fist and nor do they have the room for a QT. You must also think if you don't put all new fish and corals etc through QT there is still a chance it will get into your system. Also if taking a fish for your display tank and adding it to QT you risk stressing the fish more therefor helping WS. Then you go to the trouble of catching it again and moving back to DT that's a lot of stress.
Each to there own I suppose but I know of some members who have been in this game years who never QT.

I've had some people say take all fish out of my DT and QT them and treat with copper and leave the DT tank for 6 to 8 weeks but we go back to the same problem catching fish stressing them moving to a QT that's probably to small for them with me having more them hand just 3 fish.

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Reply #19

If you think not quarantining fish is fine then that is your choice but you wouldn't have this problem if you did.
I think you will find most people advocate qt tanks.
I hope its a valuable lesson learnt.

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If you think not quarantining fish is fine then that is your choice but you wouldn't have this problem if you did.
I think you will find most people advocate qt tanks.
I hope its a valuable lesson learnt.
If I had space it would have been a possibility from the start but I haven't. I'm new to this only been doing the salty side of things for a couple of months. I asked if I should have one at my lfs and they gave me the same answer as some other people which was no. It will be a lesson learn and possibly a costly one. I just haven't got the room for a QT unfortunately.

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Reply #21

@Lee

It's okay putting fish into QT but going by your posts that's all you QT so what about any corals and inverts anything wet in fact. You can't put corals an inverts in with meds so you must have two QT tanks as WS can come in on anything wet not just fish.

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@Marty have I done or said anything to offend or upset you?
Am I not entitled to my opinion of things or does it have to be the same as your opinion?
you may or may not know that there are more opinions than just yours so why do you jump down my throat because I have the nerve to criticise somebody?
So stop making this a personal thing and we will all be happy

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Reply #23

His not having a go. Your post came across as more of a dig

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I think you will find most people advocate qt tanks.
I hope its a valuable lesson learnt.


Marty was just stating that the parasite can come in on anything from rock, algae, corals or the fish..

Go the natural route, feed the tank with foods containing high levels of garlic. Garlic is natures way of improving the bodies immune system.
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pointing out that a qt doesn't need to be expensive or complicated and finishing with basically hope everything works out ok constitutes having a dig at a person?????????
No it does not so that makes it personal.

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Reply #25

His not having a go. Your post came across as more of a dig
 

Marty was just stating that the parasite can come in on anything from rock, algae, corals or the fish..

Go the natural route, feed the tank with foods containing high levels of garlic. Garlic is natures way of improving the bodies immune system.
I brought some at the weekend so feeding them alternatively. Will be checking to see how it's doing shortly before my night shift.

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Reply #26

I recommend feeding garlic soaked food, I also used a crushed clove in a net before it seems to help the fish. Good luck.
There's a fine line between success and failure like there's a difference between surviving and thriving and we are all striving for a thriving success.

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I recommend feeding garlic soaked food, I also used a crushed clove in a net before it seems to help the fish. Good luck.
Thanks Steve will also give this a try.

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Reply #28

Anyone who knows me and several have met me personally knows I'm not one to dig at people it was not in no way a personal attack in any way sorry you feel that way.

I was just merely pointing out that to 100% QT everything that's wet so to speak has to be put through QT.

I myself have been fallow twice and had all fish in QT the first resulted in a wipe out and the second was fine after being fallow for 3 months. However whitespot reared it's ugly head up again and only things that had been added was corals I just fed and it went away.

It's not only my opinion that counts everyone is free to express an opinion that's what forums are about but having been through WS myself twice and gone the QT route does put me in a position to offer advice based on my own personal experience I'm here to help and advise not dig at people as that's not me.

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Reply #29

I recommend feeding garlic soaked food, I also used a crushed clove in a net before it seems to help the fish. Good luck.
Never thought of that, do you just use a media bag? Hang in DT or would return chamber be just as good?

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