Could this be velvet or brook?:(

Debbiem · Nov 27, 2016 10:53:30 am

After returning from holiday to find a few losses I have waited 10 days to add any new fish. I have now lost the 4 new fish I added within a few days of buying them (2 anthias, baby clown and a lemon peel) - not added all at once, a few days between. This is a pic of my surviving clown that I have had for a year and my regal about 4 months. Could it be velvet? No other behavior if scratching / breathing difficulties though ??

Marty · Nov 27, 2016 10:56:50 am

If it was velvet I would expect a quick wipeout I've been there myself so feel your pain.

Are the fish still eating and acting normal

Debbiem · Nov 27, 2016 11:00:49 am

Yes - I lost 5 while I was away so don't know how they behaved but my clown looked like this before I went away - didn't look likes pics of white spot - more like very small particles of bits that float around in water sticking to him - like a fine film. All behavior of fish left (all original fish for at least 2 months) seem normal

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Carol · Nov 27, 2016 11:05:49 am

To me it looks like velvet. Does it have a sort of golden shimmer? With Brookynella the skin or maybe its layers of mucus seems to come off in sheets.

Im very sorry Debbie

Debbiem · Nov 27, 2016 11:07:42 am

No golden shimmer - no marks at all on my blue dwarf cherub angel - but if velvet, would my clown have survived 4 weeks with it looking the same as it does now?

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Carol · Nov 27, 2016 11:16:17 am

Velvet is ,well in trops its Oodinium ,but what the parasite is in marines I dont know ,in trops its from lower pH in water and its life cycle is similar to Cryptocarion ,its just a much smaller parasite hence the different look ,you cant always see the sheen ,and maybe not aplicable in marines.

For the fish to survive with Brookynella for that length of time is doubtful . Normally its a few days and thier gone.

Is it possible you had a powercut while on holiday?

Debbiem · Nov 27, 2016 11:24:00 am

No powercut - no clocks flashing! My ph is 8.1 - has always been at that and doesn't alter. So if it is velvet - my clown could survive 4 weeks with it. No marks on the fish that died though. How come the new fish died so quickly and other fish ok?

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Debbiem · Nov 27, 2016 8:00:45 pm

Anyone? Also how do I find out what it is so I can try and treat it or do I just wait and see? Water tested again today and parameters fine - phosphate slightly high at 0.14 so changing phosphate media but been lot higher than that in past!

Marty · Nov 27, 2016 8:01:43 pm

I would opt for dimming lights and keep hands out and stress down and feed and hopefully they will pull through

Angrymac · Nov 28, 2016 8:50:39 am

Wish I could offer something constructive Deb, looks like velvet to me, think that's what did my blue neon goby. He didn't seem to have travelled well and never looked well even after a very careful acclimation. He was just covered lasted about ten days then succumbed, hence the QT tank now.
I'm with Marty on dealing with it strategy.

Debbiem · Nov 28, 2016 4:59:48 pm

I am going to set up a QT tank (once I have got done all the work required for the dreaded and extremely badly timed VAT inspection out of the way)!! But .. it only seems like my clown has it - but she has looked the same for about 4 / 5 weeks - if it was velvet, would she have not succumbed to it by now and none of my other original fish show signs of it? Showing no outward signs of distress - swimming and feeding normally. Have adjusted the flow today as well as I think we had it on too high - the fish were all swimming one end of the tank - they seem much happier now and are using the whole tank. Maybe I lost the new fish (2 anthias, clown and lemon peel) due to too high a flow and possibly adding them too quickly together or maybe my existing fish have somehow grown immune to it? or maybe thats just wishful thinking! How long should I wait to try and add another clown to keep mine company? p.s. I've got excellent as not putting my hands in tanks since I've had the reefer - mainly because I can't reach! :)

fishface · Nov 28, 2016 5:08:57 pm

Don't know if u are but have u tried feeding heavily with garlic. My fish had ws and I fed them with flake and seaweed with added garlic and they made good recovery . I now fed it every day . I know yours is probably not ws but it may help

Debbiem · Nov 28, 2016 5:44:03 pm

Thanks - I do feed frozen cubes with garlic added but I wonder by the time I rinse it, is there any garlic left? Mine don't really like flake or pellets and at the moment I don't want to stress them out more by trying something different. I would hope that even rinsed, the frozen should be infused with some garlic?

Carol · Nov 28, 2016 6:55:28 pm

Possibly Debbie, I used to rinse my food as I used a heck of a lot in a day,now I use two cubes max and dont bother.
What I do with the Discus whoese food also has garlic added ,is put the cubes in a little tupperware container,drop a drop of garlic liquid,im useing Brightwell right now, on each cube and leave it till thier mostly defrosted then I add a little water to mix it further and use this thru the day.
Garlic is an amazing thing ,its a great appetite stimulater, and can be a bit ,not exactly antibiotic,but it does scour in mammals, and years ago was used like that as a wormer. It thins blood surposeadly , you wont harm the fish certainly.

HK_Fuey · Nov 28, 2016 7:53:34 pm

I'd go with velvet/amyloodinium too.
Google some pics. It's very tiny spots, sometimes with a gold tinge, and can have that cloudy skin look.
https://goo.gl/images/Tr0Vl3

Have a read of these:

Marine Fish Diseases and Parasites
Marine Velvet/Amyloodinium ocellatum: A Discussion of this Disease and its Available Treatment Options - Reefkeeping.com

Could this be velvet or brook?:(

Could this be velvet or brook?:(

Could this be velvet or brook?:(

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