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Corals should i get a Hammer or torch

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Ok so as these are the corals I'm interested in I wondered  if anyone has anything to advise, recommend etc in regards to the above... I.e certain care they may need etc

I know Mike previously mentioned torches can have a pretty good sting at times, so bearing something like this in mind, do people generally avoid touching it once in tank or do you wear gloves etc etc?

What supplements if any do I need to feed my corals in the tank with?

And the ultimate question..... Torch or hammer?

I just think torches are prettier haha

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Reply #1

They're fairly similar corals actually, hardiness, feeding requirements, lighting and flow, etc.

Torches do pack a powerful sting, but not everyone will react badly to it. I'm fairly thick skinned, and I can touch mine without issues. I wouldn't want to touch it with the skin on my wrist or underarm, as it's much thinner, but you should be ok to touch it with your hand... When putting either in the tank, they'll be fully withdrawn, so no problem/risk there.

With just 4 T5s, I'd put it midway up the rockscape, I wouldn't put it on the bottom...

To feed it, just blow some mysis shrimp or something at its tentacles once or twice a fortnight. Some don't feed them at all... The food will just stick to the tentacles, and it'll absorb nutrients from it.

As for supplements, don't dose anything you're not testing for, but you'll want to maintain alkalinity to between 8~11 dKh, calcium between 400~450ppm and magnesium around 1300~1400 is fine, just typical reef levels.

With only a few corals though, you're probably best maintaining those with partial water changes, 10~20% per week should be ok.

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I am a big fan of them both. depending on which you get. My LFS has some fantastic hammers in at the moment which really do look amazing. although he only recently got rid of some good torches. both a winner in my opinion. :) I have some powder i mix up to target feed all my LPS. i will see what it is called and let you know.

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I use D&D powdered food.
There are two types of hammer.
The branching kind (like a Duncan)which have vibrant green tentacles with purple tips, or there is standard type which has a couple colour types, it does have a better growth pattern.  I'll find some pics.
I should really sort this out!!

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Torches are a branching corals too.
I should really sort this out!!

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Reply #5

Here's a picture of my branching hammer, see what Naso said about the bright green and purple? I prefer the look of branching hammers.

The torch is branching too, mine is quite big and must have 16+ heads.

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The hammer looks fantastic. i hope mine will get bigger and end up the same as the colours look amazing...

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i feed my hammer by hand and have never been stung

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The corals of this type sting each other with what we call sweeper tentacles , you wont feel it thru your skin . In fact any coral placed too close to another will  have a war for territory , its just that out of all of them IMO Torch  corals are  possibly the worst for this.
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Reply #9

I love these corals, and I'm going to throw frogspawn into the mix too.  All are euphyllias and are very similar, just different shapes/colours.

Same colours for torches and frogspawns, but not come across marbled.  You get branching and wall in these too. 

Google yellow, gold, purple, Fluoro green, metallic green, and several combinations of these as marbled for hammers.  Frogspawns can be placed next to hammers without issue (apparently a few exceptions, but normally works fine), but both of these fight with torches.  Worth considering before you buy.

Sweeper tentacles are def an issue with putting anything else near by.  You'll be surprised how far they can extend.  I've seen mine out to 4/5 inches outside where the coral would be considered fully inflated, so be careful.

Touched all of mine, not been stung.

I love the variety in euphyllias.  My favourite corals I think  :cool:

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I got rid of my torch coral due to sweeper tentacles stinging everything, The tentacles can stretch out upto around 10" , Hammerheads and frogspawn can be placed next to each other with no problems of stinging each other, Out of the two hammer and frogspawn I have only seen the frogspawn stinging a zoa that was too close. also for some reason I have always found wall hammers harder to keep so tend to only go for branching.

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Hammerheads and frogspawn can be placed next to each other with no problems of stinging each other
Interesting!  I had my torch next to a frogspawn and they stung each other.  I read the article below, and it says that frogspawns and hammers are fine next to each other, but other euphyllias can be hit and miss.  My torch is doing well, but yet as fully extended on the side that was damanged as the other side, so might try it by the hammer at some point to see.
Aquarium Corals: Corals of the Genus Euphyllia — Advanced Aquarist | Aquarist Magazine and Blog

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Reply #12

Hmm mine was the opposite way torch stinging hammer and frogspawn, Had a quick read of the link above, my 3 hammers all had that bubble blowing up and down for about 6 weeks, it's when the heads are splitting, will try and get a pic when hammer has retracted in a bit

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Reply #13

I've seen that on my green with purple tips frogspawn too  :grin:  It's grown massive since I've had it.

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