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Working away and using Apex

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Hello all

I have been thinking about buying an apex now for a while and now they are supplying the new powerbar i wouldnt mind it.

Anyway i work away a lot so knowing something is being monitored is something im interested in even though im not necessarily there to fix it lol

Anyone else here use an apex or maybe different brand? Is it worth it?

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Reply #1

I'm in the same position mate, which model are you looking at?

What put me off so far is that the UK models seemed to lack some features of the US versions (specifically the new energy bar EB832 whereas we get the EB6).  I wondered if they were going to release this soon and make the 2016 model obsolete.

In the meantime I picked up a Seneye reef for £35 second hand, it's not great TBH but it has already saved my reef while I was away (started getting low pH alerts, turns out the KH had dropped massively). I feel the slides are also quite expensive (£7 a month) for what you actually get monitored. 

Edit; one other plus for the seneye reef is that you can take it off the tank glass and hold it under your lights to check the PAR readings.

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Reply #2

Im not sure on ths model mate.. i was told the other day that the new powerbar was out obviously wrong info. Chartethouse has a kit for £460, tempting

Before i took the break from the hobby i looked at the seneye, it is again tempting i just think for the coat it might be short on features.

I would also like tje alk monitor but for a grand its a chunk of cash lol

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Reply #3

I run a 2016 apex, you can’t get the us spec eb8 in this country, it comes with the eb6.

The eb8 has a built in one link for dos and wavs but you buy that separately.

The only thing you won’t be able to add is the power monitoring.


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Reply #4

Ok time. Been some time aince i looked them on youtube. A fella tried.to sell me his apex last week but im holding out lol
I know the uk market must be pretty small to develop the powerbar for us but surely they cant keep it full retail if a main component is different. Guess time will tell

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I run a 2016 apex, you can’t get the us spec eb8 in this country, it comes with the eb6.

The eb8 has a built in one link for dos and wavs but you buy that separately.

The only thing you won’t be able to add is the power monitoring.


Tim

You got any experience with the GHL ProFilux system?

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Reply #6

You got any experience with the GHL ProFilux system?

No mate, just the Apex


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Reply #7

Going back a while, I read a very long thread on UR where some guy was slating the Apex having had a major tank crash and wasn't getting much in the way of support from the manufacturer. It put me off having one.  :scared:

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Reply #8

Hi guys,

I have been using Apex for about 4 years now and I love it. Customer support was fantastic even though they couldn’t help as my old system was out of warranty.

The new 2016 came with the same plugbar as the classic one, it doesn’t have one link port and did not come with a display but it’s backward compatible and so you could connect your old display or modules to it.

If you buy a starter WAV pack (extra), you get two WAV power heads with the modules with the one link interface. I’ve been using these power heads and they can really generate waves! ( I have stopped using jebao range as it’s not safe IMO, the control unit melted and almost caught fire, lucky we were home at the time).

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I have stopped using jebao range as it’s not safe IMO, the control unit melted and almost caught fire, lucky we were home at the time).

Wow. That's scary!  :scared:
I used to have the opinion that Chinese was probably OK because I figured that all the other manufacturers would use cheap Chinese components anyway.
However, I was on a course the other day and the guy was from a Dutch manufacturing company talking about Chinese components being sub standard. He was comparing a proper iPhone charger with a cheap Chinese one and he said that the cheaper one would knacker your phones battery prematurely due to something called "ripple"

When it comes to fire risks though sounds like they shouldn't even be selling them.

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Reply #10

The power head had only been used for about 3-4 weeks, SW15.

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Wow. That's scary!  :scared:
I used to have the opinion that Chinese was probably OK because I figured that all the other manufacturers would use cheap Chinese components anyway.
However, I was on a course the other day and the guy was from a Dutch manufacturing company talking about Chinese components being sub standard. He was comparing a proper iPhone charger with a cheap Chinese one and he said that the cheaper one would knacker your phones battery prematurely due to something called "ripple"

When it comes to fire risks though sounds like they shouldn't even be selling them.

To be fair I don't think the problem is that it's Chinese as such, it's that it's cheap crap made with the bare minimum of components and QC to keep the costs down.  The legit OEM Apple chargers are made in China or India. (Which are also crap by the way but that's besides the point!)  :lol:

Likewise with UK spec Jebao products from the UK distie (I think this is either simply aquaria or D-D) , they have a fairly decent slim powersupply. 
Completely different to the cheap shit PSU you get with ebay ones (AFAIK though the actual controller/powerheads are identical though, but the UK ones have a QC sticker). 

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Reply #12

I bought it from one of my LFS ... not directly from D-D, etc. so I don't know whether he gets them from D-D or directly from China.

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Reply #13

I travel a fair bit.

Regarding Apex (which i dont have) i have taken a different and cheaper approach.

I feel my lighting schedule is reliable enough ( hydra hd) and i change very infrequently. Dont see a need to monitor

I have two independent top off reservoirs each with their own ATU. One lasts two days, the other a week (the larger one cuts off when run out). The larger tops off into the smaller one and the smaller one feeds the sump return chamber. The smaller one uses the reefloat atu which has over fill protection.

I have two float sensors connected to a raspberry pi, one in the small reservoir looking for when the level starts to fall (so telling me the larger reservoir has run out and i have two days ro left). The second float sits in the sump return chamber slightly lower than the ATU float. If this triggers it tells me that the small ro has either run out or failed.

I’m slowly expanding the capability with a flow sensor on the return pump, a float sensor in the skimmer chamber to detect overfill (and probably overflow of the skimmer) all coming online fairly soon. I also happen to have solar panels which tell me if i have a grid power cut. And plan to use this to delay the skimmer coming up by a half hour following power restore. 


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