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I put a few little bits on it like this:



Hopefully I'll see something happen, I think the little dots all around it might be tentacles slowly coming out, could be algae though I don't know yet.

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That purple one is awesome and I would by one if it looked like that.
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This is what you'd be expecting to see. Don't be fooled into thinking fungia plates are just an immobile bones, they'll get up and wonder off, uncover themselves, grab food and drag it up, stretch their mouths around it.

I'm pretty sure yours is 90% dead... But it's hard to tell, especially with the colour...

See this video:
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Yh those purple ones are nice, the ones in the link about one that keeps reproducing are nice too.

I think if I was to fully bury it like that it'd definitely finish it off with no light. I agree I think it looks pretty much dead as it's nothing like the inflated ones how it should be, I should've gone for the inflated one, lesson learnt. I've seen them move and unbury themselves like that before and seen your vid before but didn't realise how they went when dieing, silly mistake really as generally I tend not to go for things unless they're nice and inflated :(.

They are supposed to be an easy coral though if healthy aren't they? Just need regular feeding I thought, the people on that forum link say they're hard to keep, do you think they've just had the same experience as me and not known they'd bought a near on dead one or are they difficult to keep?

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I see some flesh and tentacles coming.
I don't think you can see it in the pic very well but the dots are the tentacles coming out and just under a quarter of it on the north side of it has flesh swelling over the skeleton. Still not very hopeful that it's going to make it though as taken ages and not sure it's going to inflate all the way around, plus not doing anything to move that substrate off itself.


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Yh those purple ones are nice, the ones in the link about one that keeps reproducing are nice too.

I think if I was to fully bury it like that it'd definitely finish it off with no light. I agree I think it looks pretty much dead as it's nothing like the inflated ones how it should be, I should've gone for the inflated one, lesson learnt. I've seen them move and unbury themselves like that before and seen your vid before but didn't realise how they went when dieing, silly mistake really as generally I tend not to go for things unless they're nice and inflated :(.

They are supposed to be an easy coral though if healthy aren't they? Just need regular feeding I thought, the people on that forum link say they're hard to keep, do you think they've just had the same experience as me and not known they'd bought a near on dead one or are they difficult to keep?

Not having light while it's buried wouldn't affect it, as it'll uncover itself within about an hour. That video isn't over a fortnight, they're much more active than you think.

The bits you've put on it, it might not have noticed, as you've got large grain substrate, so maybe it hasn't noticed a couple of small bits.

They're not an easy coral, but I wouldn't describe them as - as difficult as SPS. I'd say they're one of the most difficult LPS, but everyone's experience is different. All those reefers saying they're hard to keep long term, are probably good, experienced reefers, and if they've had trouble keeping them longterm, then they're probably right.

If one "experienced" guy has kept his alive for a long time, he could easily say "yeah, they're dead easy!", someone else also experienced could have bad luck with one, through bacterial infection or physical damage, too much light, or any kind of things that can kill a particular coral, and he'll go on to say they're really difficult, so you just have to gather the opinions of the masses and read some articles, etc.

Yours definitely isn't a healthy one though, it looks to me like you've been sold a dead or almost dead coral skeleton. I'd be arming myself with all the lingo, figuring out how to pronounce "fungiidae" and go marching back with it demanding a refund or at least a swap for another one...

Keep your eye on it through the night though, as it may just be a deceaving colour, it might be like a balloon come 3am, but I doubt it...
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Ohh I thought they were time lapses over a whole night so like 12hrs+, didn't realise they moved that quickly.

That's sort of what I meant, easy as in as far as LPS go, I thought they'd be as easy as acans, candy canes, grape corals and stuff. I looked on liveaquaria said they're easy and a couple testimonials said they're very easy that's why I went for it, didn't realise they're quite difficult. I've done a fair bit of research and I know fungiidae is the family of which fungia belong to and there's something like another 15 types in the family. Read up a bit on them but not really anything that can help like seeing and having experience with one can.

Yh I reckon it's pretty obvious you're right that I was sold one pretty much dead. The little bit of substrate is still on it and seen a tiny tiny bit more flesh and a few more tentacles now but it's not good at all. I'll be going back tomorrow and will let them know if it doesn't survive I'll want my money back as I know it's not my tank because the tube anemone, acans, candy canes, grapes, frogspawn is all doing well and even that SPS I cut up isn't dieing and that's come back from the dead, plus they shouldn't of sold me something in such poor health anyway.

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Give a blast of rotis or cyclops see if anything happens
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I don't keep them, I've got just about everything else lol I'll grab some tomorrow though when go to lfs.

I've got brine shrimp, mysis, krill, squid, mussel, marine mix, live brine shrimp, phytoplankton.

Edit: Actually the marine mix has rotis in, I'll do some of that and then syringe the smaller bits out, thanks.

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So been feeding it by blasting some concentrated phyto over it and same with marine mix and it's growing flesh slowly but nicely and more tentacles are coming out and getting longer. So looks like it's getting better day by day.

Also added a goni yesterday which seems to love the phyto. It's not fully out yet. I think it might be a different one to the pink one I phoned up to hold for me as looks a quarter of the size and it's green :/ could just be it was fully extended I suppose but I'll see what happens.

Here's a pic of each:


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Fingers crossed.
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Try the plate with bigger foods, like mysis shrimp or krill, they'll happily eat big foods, rather than tiny planktonic foods. It's also good as you can visually see it dragging the food up to it's mouth...
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Yh I give the plate a mix of everything, the bigger bits work well as they get caught in it much better between the ridges but most of the tentacles are nearer the outside, they don't go all the way to the centre but they're getting closer and closer so I don't think it can feed itself yet. I blast some phyto towards it's mouth once a day as well as some mixed foods a couple times a day so that it has a variety of sizes, I'm just trying everything at the moment until it's covered in a nice flesh and tentacles fully extend so it can feed itself.

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Reply #28

Hmm... Food shouldn't be getting caught between the ridges, that's where the flesh should be. Plate corals don't eat by absorbing through the flesh like hammer corals, etc do. They have a mouth and draw the food up to the mouth. If yours food is getting stuck between the ridges it's not getting eaten. It should stick to an invisible mucus membrane on the surface of the plate and rise up to the mouth over about 5 minutes, it's mouth should stretch around the food and then close behind it. They're not inanimate. Look at youtube videos, you'll see what to expect from yours...
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