Frag tank

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic. 4962 views

  • Guest

Good afternoon everyone. Quick question i am hoping to set up a small frag tank 3x1x1 or 2x2x1.what sort of filtration would i need for a frag tank there will be no fish just zoas and acans?

T-Bone Tyrone

  • Posts: 3,646
  • Liked: 600
  • Thanks Given: 520
  • Received: 297
  • I wonder where this shows up?!
  • Location: Ammanford

Reply #1

Simplest would be LR and a power head IMO, just treat as a DT in that respect, if you were thinking of a quarantine tank, then mechanical filtration should be considered.
I should really sort this out!!

JIM 82

  • Guest

Reply #2

Thanks @T-Bone Tyrone. Would it  be possible to use an internal filter instead of LR i dont want any nasty critters getting in?

Thanks:


Mike

  • Administrator
  • Posts: 8,537
  • Liked: 1906
  • Thanks Given: 675
  • Received: 1193
  • Location: Manchester
  • Tank Thread: https://reefbase.co.uk/members'-tanks-6/i-conica's-tank-(picture-heavy!)/

Reply #3

You would be best using Live Rock as said, IMO but if you're bothered about hitchhikers, get reef bones (dead live rock that's been dried out). It's cheaper, and will work just as well for filtration, minus the critters, good or bad.


As corals don't produce much waste in the form of ammonia, etc, you won't need much either. A few KGs of smallish nuggets will form ample biological filtration for a frag tank.


You could use an internal filter, but it'd have to have ceramic rings in anyway for biological filtration, and so what's the point in an extra electronic device when you can use the flow in the DT around a few KGs of LR? Also, there's the danger of the "ticking time-bomb" with enclosed filters like internal and external filters, where if the power goes, the aerobic bacteria quickly consume all available oxygen in that small body of water then die. When power resumes you've lost your bio filter, or a good chunk of it.


Last Edit: May 30, 2014 1:42:19 pm by i-CONICA
Donate to the running of ReefBase

Thanks:


T-Bone Tyrone

  • Posts: 3,646
  • Liked: 600
  • Thanks Given: 520
  • Received: 297
  • I wonder where this shows up?!
  • Location: Ammanford

Reply #4

People are always sellinh LR rubble, it's smaller bits no bigger than few inches,  ideal for you. Were you thinking of using LR frag plugs?
I should really sort this out!!

Thanks:

JIM 82

JIM 82

  • Guest

Reply #5

Thanks i was going to use small bits of lr instead plus, what are reef bones ive never heard of them does anywhere local sell them?

Mike

  • Administrator
  • Posts: 8,537
  • Liked: 1906
  • Thanks Given: 675
  • Received: 1193
  • Location: Manchester
  • Tank Thread: https://reefbase.co.uk/members'-tanks-6/i-conica's-tank-(picture-heavy!)/

Reply #6

It's just the name of live rock once it's been dried out.


Live rock is not the name of the rock, it's the name of the state the rock is in. It's alive, with bacteria and critters, and that's why it's expensive. It needs to be treated like a fish, or any other living thing.


People leave it in a box in the shed and sell it two weeks later, still calling it live rock, when it isn't. It's devoid of life and will introduce no bio diversity whatsoever.


Once live rock has been dried out, it's known as reef bones.


Not to be confused with ocean rock, which is man made rock, which is denser, not as porous and I don't even think it's calcareous.  :undecided:
Donate to the running of ReefBase

JIM 82

  • Guest

Reply #7

Thanks again. If i get some reef bones how do i get them to become alive again?

Mike

  • Administrator
  • Posts: 8,537
  • Liked: 1906
  • Thanks Given: 675
  • Received: 1193
  • Location: Manchester
  • Tank Thread: https://reefbase.co.uk/members'-tanks-6/i-conica's-tank-(picture-heavy!)/

Reply #8

They'll grow bacteria anyway. It'll need to cure. But it'll never be called live rock again. Live rock is only called that when it's fresh from the sea, never dried and full of sea-life. 

Eventually in a system full of other fresh live rock it'll re-seed, but in a system of its own it never will.

If you just mean as in to perform biological filtration, it'll cycle and start working in a couple of weeks. :)
Donate to the running of ReefBase

mav469

  • Ashley
  • Global Moderator
  • Posts: 2,311
  • Liked: 509
  • Thanks Given: 41
  • Received: 328

Reply #9

look at my recent frag tank. you will see i only have 4kg of live rock in a 125l tank.

http://reefbase.co.uk/members'-tanks-6/ash's-frag-tank/

JIM 82

  • Guest

Reply #10

Good thread @mav469 . Ive just picked up my frag tank for a bargain £20. 30x12x12 with stand glass sliders and an external filter : ) my next task is to get some led lights for it and a small power head. Im also really tempted to add a single mandarin to it. Once everythings settled : )

mav469

  • Ashley
  • Global Moderator
  • Posts: 2,311
  • Liked: 509
  • Thanks Given: 41
  • Received: 328

Reply #11

hehe, i know what you mean about the adding fish. i was going to add just a six line wrasse. i'm now considering some clowns also. hehe might as well be another DT.

JIM 82

  • Guest

Reply #12

@mav469 one fish wont hurt lol.  Do you know anywhere where sells cheap egg crate the prices in the lfs are exstortionate

mav469

  • Ashley
  • Global Moderator
  • Posts: 2,311
  • Liked: 509
  • Thanks Given: 41
  • Received: 328

Reply #13

i can get you 2ft x 2 ft for £5. (not sure what shipping will be like) speak with a local company which installs suspended ceilings.

where abouts are you from ?

JIM 82

  • Guest

Reply #14

@mav469 that would be great if you could . Im from manchester

Tags:


Related Topics

1 Replies
2722 Views
Last post Aug 8, 2013 2:29:46 pm
by Mike
59 Replies
8976 Views
Last post Mar 1, 2014 10:59:11 pm
by olyoz
7 Replies
2486 Views
Last post Feb 6, 2017 9:44:19 pm
by Wrighty
5 Replies
1828 Views
Last post Jul 24, 2018 1:31:28 pm
by Gav
0 Replies
796 Views
Last post Dec 28, 2019 7:09:01 pm
by Aqua Splendor


Donate towards the running of ReefBase

Donate £1.00 Donate £2.50 Donate £5.00 Donate £10.00 Donate £20.00 Donate another value