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Royal Gramma on its side

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Hi All
hope you are all dealing well  with heat !

ok... so today I did some test and all my permitters seemed fine so when I was at my LFS ( The Aquatic Design store in Balham ) to top up on water as i'm sure you all know this heat is draining on the water level haha
I saw a zoa that caught my eye and then a ToadStall coral,
I also need up getting a Royal Gramma, he wasn't as active as the other ones that seemed to jump up to the water a lot ( seemed like they wanted to jump a little ) so I went with this one who swam around and then cuddled up into a rock and seemed pretty chilled.

I took and uber home and acclimated everyone ( the corals and the little guy ) ( took about 45mins- hour  with him  and the corals an extra 15 mins )
when I added him in he seemed happy to go into the fish net and then when I went to scoop him out, we went into the water quite fine and then swam to a rock and huddle there until it came to my usual tank feeding time, I gave my usual mix of live copepods and dry pellets, he came out and ate a little and one of my clowns seemed to guide him around the tank from a distance and then returned back to the female.

so its been a couple hours , and I checked and he was hiding in one of the caves at the back of the tank and 30 mis later I found him at the bottom of the tank on the sand
on his side breathing .... help ?! is this normal , is it stress ? is he dying ? ive not had this before

everyone else seems fine and I one else seems, to be stressed out at all... just going about their lives like normal



TANK :
-Royal Gramma
-Goby and pistol shrimp
-Clown Pair
-3x zoa
-Green star P
- 3x other coral
- cleaner shrimp
-peppermint shrimp
- 2 small blue hermits
- 3 bumble bee's
-2 nasarius
- green emerald



SouthLondonNanoReef

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Reply #1

in space it took me to type this up a Nasarius snail called up and sat on its gills and put it out of its misery...
but if anyone knows why this would have happened im still interested in knowing 

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Reply #2

Sorry to hear it didn’t make it.

I think your tank was a little small for a gramma but should not have been the  cause of death in such a short time.

Did you check the sg of the water it was in the bag with compared to your own? Some fish shops gravity can be way lower in fish only tanks compared with reef tanks. A big swing in salinity could be tha cause of death and a big sg change should be acclimated really slowly.

It may also have been stressed by the move. Stress can kill.

SouthLondonNanoReef

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Reply #3

@Paddone


ahhh really ? I did wonder that because they are quite jumpy.


should I call the LFS and tell them about the fish ? or is it to likely to get a refund ? lol
I didn't check the salinity level of the bag in the water...


ive seen some other people say their s die of stress due to being moved :/




I feel like i'm just going to have the fish I have at the moment and just focus on my corals and clowns 


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Reply #4

Bad luck, most likely lack of acclimation as paddone said.

If I can make a suggestion, next time use a quarantine tank. I use a foodsafe 30L plastic tub from Wilko's.

What you can do is make up water to match what's in the bag then gradually adjust it to match your tank.

Better still, keep him in there a while and observe him in case of parasites, check he's eating etc.

I keep a small bit of sponge in the main tank, so whenever I want to buy a fish I always have a bit I can put in the quarantine tank to act as the bio filter.
Equipment-wise, I just use a 25w heater and cheap powerhead from allpond.

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Reply #5

Next time before buying ask them what sg they run, if they look even a little unsure ask them to do a quick check. If the sg is out o sync with your tank by more than 0.003 you should not acclimate all in one go. This means either don’t buy there or acclimate over several days.

One method I have seen advised is to put them in a QT and if the shop sg is 1.021 and your tank is 1.026 then let the gradient change as the fresh water evaporates off the QT (don’t top off with RO) making the Sg rise. This then happens gradually and steadily but only works if the Sg is lower at the shop.

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Reply #6

A different observation from me...

The surface looks completely still.  You need a lot more surface agitation, which will ensure there is enough oxygen in the water - lack of oxygen could be a cause of death.  The more fish, the quicker it would get used up.

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Reply #7

thanks for the advice guys :).
ive moved the heads to add more oxygen and I think im going to concentrate on the corals and what is in the tank at the moment


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