Restocking plan (post white spot)

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Chin up,
I should really sort this out!!

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If it helps, I had a couple of Clarkii clowns and they became very annoying as they bullied my blue reef chromis. Emma actually witnessed one of them taking a chunk out of its tail end resulting in its demise. It became stressful watching the tank rather than therapeutic and relaxing!

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Thanks Steve.  I'm determined I want to get my nem hosting clowns, as it's one of the main things I switched to marine for.  I know there's more risk with Clarkiis, but I've tried all sorts with my Percs and not had any luck.
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Update...

I added the coral beauty a couple of days ago.  No signs of white spot, so I added the neon goby and royal grammar tonight.  The foxface and perc are still looking healthy after a number of days a SG that should allow ich to attack if it was still alive in the QT.  Might not do the copper treatment with them, as it's another stress that seems unnecessary....opinions?

I will probably shift the coral I've been quarantining tomorrow, and have a bit of a shuffle around of a few things in the DT. 

I bought some LR to use as the filter for the QT.  About a week later, a big tube worm feather duster popped up.  Guess it was hiding in one of the holes  :cool: Freebie!  I will shift this over too, and move some less attractive bits to the QT.
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Oh, and I've been thinking of a pair of bannerfish again:
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+25+3111&pcatid=3111
See pic below...

So here's what I have now:
Foxface
Royal gramma
Neon blue goby
Coral beauty
Percula clownfish (May rehome in the QT, if he doesn't  get along with the Clarkiis)

What I intend to buy:
Blue throat trigger
Pair of Clarkiis
Yellow tang
4 x Anthias bimaculatus

Undecided on:
Purple tang
Kole Yellow Eye Tang (Ctenochaetus strigosus)
Bannerfish

Could I add them all, or am I pushing my stocking limits with quite a few larger fish?

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Update...

I added the coral beauty a couple of days ago.  No signs of white spot, so I added the neon goby and royal grammar tonight.  The foxface and perc are still looking healthy after a number of days a SG that should allow ich to attack if it was still alive in the QT.  Might not do the copper treatment with them, as it's another stress that seems unnecessary....opinions?

I will probably shift the coral I've been quarantining tomorrow, and have a bit of a shuffle around of a few things in the DT. 

I bought some LR to use as the filter for the QT.  About a week later, a big tube worm feather duster popped up.  Guess it was hiding in one of the holes  :cool: Freebie!  I will shift this over too, and move some less attractive bits to the QT.

This is all great news, I very happy for you, I guess you'll watching the DT like a hawk now for any possible signs of infection! hopefully all is sorted and you can continue with your plans.
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Yeah that's great news.

Just don't be spooked by false positives, and lose the will to live. Fish get white dust stuck in their mucus from time to time.  :grin:
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There are two types of banner fish which look almost identical!

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The reef safe one is;
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+25+3111&pcatid=3111

The non-reef one is
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+25+242&pcatid=242

So be very careful! if you know this already, sorry!

As for the other fish;

The Trigger will be a messy eater, so feed this one first and the bits that float off will get eaten by the other fish. this fish will get as big as your fox face.
Clarkii, well we all know about these, have you seen the Galaxy variant?
Adding the yellow and purple tangs at the same time will make life easier, but the yellow eye Kole would have to be the biggest of all you tangs to start with, or add it first and leave it get established for a few months before the yellow\purple tang go in - if I had to choose between a yellow and purple, I'd choose purple every time. Dare I throw a spanner in the works?! you could go for a caribbean blue http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+2730+328&pcatid=328

As far as stocking levels go, I can never remember the rule of thumb, but thinking about your proposed stock, three tangs may be too much (it's close) once grown as you'll have the rabbit and trig @ 9" with a banner not too far behind, then the tangs all around the 8" mark with the clarkiis at approx 6" and the bimacs around the 5"

I think if you took what you already have, and what you intend to buy you'll be ok.
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Thanks Mike ( @i-CONICA )
There is also a third banner fish not reef safe with a similar body, but the dorsal fin is much smaller so I left it off the list.
it's similar to the yellow long nose butterfly fish too.

Forcipiger flavissimus
is considered reef safe as most leave polyps alone.
http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+25+350&pcatid=350

But Forcipiger longirostris
Isn't reef safe.


Forcipiger
 
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There are two types of banner fish which look almost identical!
yes, I knew.  See the first post, then a few down, where I realised I'd posted the wrong one.  Thanks though, better safe than sorry!

The Trigger will be a messy eater, so feed this one first and the bits that float off will get eaten by the other fish. this fish will get as big as your fox face.
Good idea.  I'll remember that.  Yes, I know it will get pretty big.  I'm going to upgrade to something pretty massive when we eventually get our kitchen floor sorted.  We moved into a new build a couple of years ago, so the kitchen is brand new, but to keep costs down, we just had laminate floor fitted.  The plan is to get underfloor heating and tiles.  At that point, I will have to move the tank anyway, so will take the opportunity to move it to a 4m long blank wall.  How big I go is negotiable, but we want some space either side, so thinking 6/7 ft.  That should leave plenty of room for pretty much any fish to grow into :-)

Clarkii, well we all know about these, have you seen the Galaxy variant?
I have now  :wink:  I've never been one for the variants of clowns though, so think I'll go with the standard Clarkiis.

Adding the yellow and purple tangs at the same time will make life easier, but the yellow eye Kole would have to be the biggest of all you tangs to start with, or add it first and leave it get established for a few months before the yellow\purple tang go in - if I had to choose between a yellow and purple, I'd choose purple every time.
i had a yellow and kole and added them together with no issues.  I might drop the kole in favour of the purple.  The reason I had the kole down was as it's an algae eating specialist, and can scrape slime algae from rocks, unlike other (non-bristle tooth) tangs.  I like the marking on the kole too, but the purple also has this.  Hmm.... :undecided:

Dare I throw a spanner in the works?! you could go for a caribbean blue http://www.liveaquaria.com/product/prod_display.cfm?c=15+2730+328&pcatid=328
Its nice, but I think I'd regret not having the brighter purple or yellow tang instead.

As far as stocking levels go, I can never remember the rule of thumb, but thinking about your proposed stock, three tangs may be too much (it's close) once grown as you'll have the rabbit and trig @ 9" with a banner not too far behind, then the tangs all around the 8" mark with the clarkiis at approx 6" and the bimacs around the 5"

I think if you took what you already have, and what you intend to buy you'll be ok.
You're right, at full size this is way too much.  Given I plan to upgrade, and all of them will be a lot smaller for several years, I'm hoping to get away with having a few more for a while though.  I might hold back on the purple tang, as the other two only get to 7" and the purple gets to 10", and add that when I upgrade.  Same for the bannerfish.  I like the idea of having a few yellow and a few bannerfish when I upgrade.  I just love seeing a few of the same fish swimming together.
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Graham,
I'm not a fan of clown variants, but the Galaxy are nice, I think the other variants take the markings too far.

The comment about the Kole was if all three go in, if you have just the two, then worst case would be one tang having a go and not two I thought may be going in, my purple has regular disagreements with the Sailfin, so a purple can hold its own, as for the colour on the purple, they are quite dark and can look almost navy blue from distance, but the closer you get the better the fish looks!

Didn't realise an upgrade would be happening, in that case go crazy!

Agreed about shoals of larger fish, a few yellows\purples\powder blues or banners would look lovely.

I have a caribbean blue tang in my tank, it's tiny! bright yellow, blue eyes and a lil bit of blue trim to it's fins, I bought because it changed so drastically from one colour to another.

looking forward to your future stocking.

If I knew I'd be upgrading in the near future it would completly shift my focus of my tank, I'd simply be maintaining the tank, and researching and pricing all the new bits required, and keeping an eye out for bargins.



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It'll be a while before the upgrade comes, maybe a year or so.

The colour change is a big attraction to the anthias for me.  Maybe I need to go for an 8' upgrade to fit some more in  :tongue:
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Clarkii, well we all know about these, have you seen the Galaxy variant?

Is that what those are called... Never liked any distorted fish patterns. In nature, they're deformed and don't get any sex.
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I just ordered a pair of Clarkiis.  My LFS are pretty good with getting me what I want, and I've never had any issues with fish from them.  Excited now, but might have to wait a bit until they get hold of them.
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