Reactions to lowering temp in Cichlids

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Id be interested to know if anyone has experienced fitting as a result of lowering the temp on big Cichlids? In my case Discus,they act as if some one bit thier bum,shoot off like loons crashing about come to a rest panting and shaking.

Not all the fish in the same tank have this reaction.

Discus have been known to do this with bad water conditions ,but this is not the case here.

We lowered the temp a week ago to stop the pair spawning. Yesterday the bull went apeshit and scared the others shitless. Today no one would feed,so having lowered thetemp being the only thing we had done I turned it back up.

Now its warming up thier back feeding and the bull is stropping it large.

Id be interested to hear if anyone has observed this behavoiur. Or maybe you just dont have bright ideas like Garry?
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Reply #1

depends how low you went and how quickly.

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Four deg C over a week. 28 to 24....seems that after all these years I realy dont know my arse from my elbow :S



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Reply #3

I personally would of kept it around the 26 mark.

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As it 'appens Im sure it would have been more sensible. I dont like to interfere too much with his trops. I am putting my foot down now ,its obvious this species reacts differently. Id have thought they might have gone off thier food ,but not this.



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Reply #5

Not too sure as regards Discus but I would have thought 24°c would still have been ok unless the drop was instant but then so would the reaction have been IME . Generally I always found low temperatures would inhibit breeding and associated aggressive behaviour , especially amongst central America cichlids with the latter.
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Yeah its sort of what we thought Gav,now the temp is going up slowly,the same fish who had a wobbler yesterday is coloured up like an LSD trip and putting everyone back in the place they strayed from when he was off colour yesterday.


I can remember an Oscar years ago sulking for a week because I changed the background on his tank...
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Reply #7

I have witnessed something similar to what your saying but with a RT shark , My father in-law was doing a water change on his community tank , and to cut a story , the shark got in the way of a rather large bucket of cold water and the exact same response as you've said earlier .
Oscars were the worst for huffing , when I had my first one , I was still serving my time and had to go to college in Glasgow , each time I came back to find the entire contents of a 4x2 tank , rocks , gravel other fish all shoved and herded into one corner of the tank , right to the glass . He never done it when I was there . He also went through a phase of stripping large plecs to the bone , I was fortunate that there was an abundance of large plecs at LFS at the time , but again didn't bother with them while I was around , only if I went off for more than a few days .

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Thats interesting Gav about the shark thanks.


Do you remember the diatomic earth filters? They had a H shaped arrangement of pipes and taps to coat the bag with earth. My bitch fish grabbed the bloody pipe in the tank and half pulled it off ,flooding the lounge,my Mum went mental. She also(fish not mum) used to swallow the heater up to the stat part and shake it like a dog ffs...



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Reply #9

Yeah Ive a rough idea but not completely familiar with them , would have made quite a mess .
I had a large male P. Managuense that didn't like heaters not sure if it was the funny reflection of himself in the glass but never done throwing it about and smashing it off the back of the tank , he broke several heaters and guards over the years .

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I dont think many fish have the personalities of big Cichlids. I miss not having Oscars but thier big messy and these days I have to make choices.
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No especially not like Oscars , I found them the next best thing to owning a dog lol
Although that said the small clownfish I've got do remind me slightly of baby Oscars , probably just there overall enthusiasm for being daft lol

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I think that they are related in some vague way. The Maroons can get realy stroppy. Ive had Tomatos ,percs false percs and Maroons .
When I put percs in a tank I always put in five,they behave like a proper family group,luckily I have the room to do this,last lot were blacks. Ive got a group of pretty big rhodactis and I think they would host them . Be nice to have some again.
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Reply #13

Discus prefer it around 30C. 24 is very low for them.


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Discus prefer it around 30C. 24 is very low for them.


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So Im finding out,still it wouldnt have done to argue with a man intent on stopping Discus sex,I know my place  :grin:

Right now thier fighting like fck...its upset the pecking order...he buggers of to work waving a pair of Verniers ,and leaving a trail of nuts and bolts in his wake...and I get the moody fish....
Do not mock the snake because it has no horns.For who is to say that one day it may become a dragon,as one just man may become an army...Water Margin.

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