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Bought 2 juvenile clowns around a month ago, noticed during acclimation that one was chasing the other quite severely but put it down to the hierarchy situation, this continued throughout the whole month (some days would be better than others). Female was clearly established and the male was submitting. Then last week I noticed the male was quite poorly (deteriorated very quickly) I managed to separate them but it was too late the male passed away a short time later. Now I am stuck as to whether to get another but I'm worried the same thing is going to happen. What do you guys suggest?

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Bought 2 juvenile clowns around a month ago, noticed during acclimation that one was chasing the other quite severely but put it down to the hierarchy situation, this continued throughout the whole month (some days would be better than others). Female was clearly established and the male was submitting. Then last week I noticed the male was quite poorly (deteriorated very quickly) I managed to separate them but it was too late the male passed away a short time later. Now I am stuck as to whether to get another but I'm worried the same thing is going to happen. What do you guys suggest?
I never ceased to be amazed by the behaviour of fish.
When I started this journey originally in 1995, we just bought the fish, acclimated to temperature only, and shoved them in the DT.
Now all sorts of problems arise.
I'm convinced that the fish aren't handled as well as they were hence behavioural problems, not to mention inherent disease carrying.
You may have read about my trials with fish not getting on, and lately one of a pair ocellaris clowns bullying a yellow tang twice its size-this ending up in the hospital tank.
 Personally, in answer to your question, I don't think another would fight, especially if a different size, and/or breed ie. percula/ocellaris. I think that those partnerships where one becomes dominant is sorted out over time, who knows though?

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So am I! I used to have tropical fish prior to marine and it surprises me how brutal the fish world can be   :O, thank you for the advice regarding using different sizes/breeds. I may wait till the new year and try to find a shop that will sell me just one as most shops only tend to sell in pairs  :o. Suppose marine keeping is all about risk taking  :D

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So am I! I used to have tropical fish prior to marine and it surprises me how brutal the fish world can be   :O, thank you for the advice regarding using different sizes/breeds. I may wait till the new year and try to find a shop that will sell me just one as most shops only tend to sell in pairs  :o. Suppose marine keeping is all about risk taking  :D
I like your thinking, however, I should point out anecdotally you understand, that I've found there can be problems also if a fish believes he has the place to himself (I've fallen foul of that one).
It's not for me to tell you what to do, but I can only offer the advice I personally would take so I can speak with conviction. I would replace it as soon as possible so they start working out differences straight away without any bias of time.
THAT'S JUST ME, and what I would do. Again, it's only based on anecdotal observations, and I would welcome anyone to pick holes in my theory there, because I'm not 100% convinced I'm right, but based on when things have gone wrong after leaving a fish for a while...
A good example is when my Eibli angel died and the coral beauty slowly decided that the flame angel was unwelcome company, the LFS advised (once all three had passed away) to replace the trio in one go, which I will do.

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Ahh I completely see where you are coming from, I'm lucky that I've got a banggai cardinalfish sharing with the current clown so hoping there won't be any issues that front? Going coral shopping  this weekend and if I stumble across any different clowns I may well have to take one home  ;)

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Fish they are one crazy little animals indeed.

Disease control when introducing a new fish I’ve never ran a QT I just float the bag, add my tank water over 30 mins and transfer the fish via hand I never EVER add the water don’t trust it.

As for mad fish being bullies they just need a distraction or introduce them at the same time and if that does not help get a bigger bully in to sort them out but they are funny.

My two clowns are like a married couple happy one minute the next they’ve argued and off they go each to a corner of their own for a bit until finally they’ve mad up.

Fish, crazy world indeed.

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