Gold belly damsel

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Afternoon all,

So at my LFS today stocking up on some more salt water and they had a gold belly damsel in there for a £10. Discussing it through about my tank it was said I could add one more fish to my tank due to size... discusssd the population in there, pair of clowns, 1 wrasse and 1 royal gramma I was told the damsel should fit in fine.

So he is home and acclimatised and now in the tank, the clowns couldn't care less... the wrasse still seems to swim around like he is the don without a care in the world........... and then my placid, keeps himself to himself neutral royal gramma has literally turned into the Incredible Hulk, saying he has the hump is an understatement and I have never seen this side of him before, his nickname my wife and I named him with the kids was peaceful Pete - but now that should be pissed off pete.

Anyway he keeps opening his mouth and looks evil and won't leave the damsel alone for love nor money... the damsel just tries to avoid him but he won't give up.

It's been two hours now and he is still in a massive mood, I called the LFS and they said leave it 24 hours for them to establish dominance and to try and distract feed small amounts of food.

Will this settle down or should I make some drastic decisions? It's not nice to witness but I don't want to over react too.

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Carol

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Reply #1

I think the LFS is right,you could try turning off the lights. Royal Grammas are tho the most peaceful,dottybacks and can be evil. Damsels are also evil,and you have imo stocked them in the right order. It looks awful I know but as long as the Damsel is healthy and not too small it should settle or be much better tomorrow and over by the end if the week

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Brilliant thanks Carol, I had read up on damsels so had in my mind it be the last thing I added so the clowns were already eastablished as I know they are part of the same family and can cause issues.

I'll leave him too it and hope he has a chill in a day or two, I guess thinking it over the gramma was probably the least dominant in there and was settled with his pecking order so just trying to show he is not a push over to the new comer.

Appreciate your advise and it's helped me chill too haha

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As long as he isnt bullied to where his fins are shredded and his scales ripped,its more display both mentaly and phisicaly.
We once bought two realy sweet little golden coloured damsels,last in,they grew into big pale ugly buggers and set about everyone inc a Emperor Angel and a Trigger fish lmao.
As long as he can get away and hide a bit ,get a break, you could catch and sump the gramma for 24hours ,change around the rocks.


Think the damsels were Gregorys?

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Well so far he swims out the way of the gramma, so nothing physical has happened. Rather than fight back he seems to be trying to avoid him.

I am a little worried as my foursome were in essence a happy bunch, apart from the female clown nipping us it was a very balanced society with no issues, the damsel is about the same size as the clowns so he isn't very big and I hope he doesn't upset the apple cart long term.

The main reason for him was not the price, it was more the colour as everything in there although beautiful were one side of the colour spectrum, whereas the blue of the damsel has created more diversity in the scape. I had one in the back of mind for a while and read both horror stories and success stories and hoped one on his own added last would just fit in and know whose who.

I guess time will tell, and it's only Pete who has the hump, everyone else seems cool with his presence

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Good that does not sound too bad,things will settle,when I introduced the Coral Beauty and later the Nox both the Kole and Yellow tangs were total bitches for a week ,ive just put in a pair of Banghi .the Yellow tang has given them the evil eye and they are sitting behind a finger coral ,over the next week I expect them to be more visible.


For the most part its postureing, if theres a serious problem it is a mistake on the part if the agressor. They want to warn not to kill.

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Ah wicked thank you, certainly has given me some ease and that perhaps it's just territorial behaviour and establishing boundaries.

I hope your Benghi's settle in nicely too.

A hat tip to you!

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Thank you young fraggle, yes the Banghi are now feeding  :D

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Reply #8

Sadly all damsels are tank terrorists and I personally always advise people against getting them as they normally become bullies sadly :(

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Sadly all damsels are tank terrorists and I personally always advise people against getting them as they normally become bullies sadly :(

Unfortunatly and dare I say with the exception of Allens damsels Marty is right. :(

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Sadly all damsels are tank terrorists and I personally always advise people against getting them as they normally become bullies sadly :(

Damn you think I could run into issues? At the moment he is the bullied but sounds like potential for change? Unless I am super lucky if there is a glimmer of hope.

I was told the gold belly damsels are the most peaceful

I'm not sure how I'd ever get him out if things did go south
Last Edit: Oct 16, 2016 7:48:12 pm by scruffy_77

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Last time I had to remove damsels was a tank strip down sadly hopefully he stays the bullied may sound horrible but it may keep it in its place as they can be nasty buggers

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Dont panic, can you get a pic as more than one carry that common name. Thier little bastards but some more than others. There might be a balance, dont cross yer bridges till you come to them. Its a possibility not a certainty.

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If it misbehaves send it my way I have a bunch of Tangs that will put it in its place haha and if really naughty a lionfish that will make it behave haha

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Oh man what have I done, they told me the gold belly damsels are peaceful... but now I'm thinking that him being bullied is good for everyone else's sake in there.

The clowns and wrasse seem to ignore him although the wrasse has pushed him out of his hiding cove twice now and flashed all his fins up.

Tank clear down sounds daunting
Last Edit: Oct 16, 2016 7:53:54 pm by scruffy_77

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