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Clownfish is struggling - advice?

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Hi everyone. I'm looking for a bit of advice.

A few days ago, I noticed a small red mark on the face of one of my clownfish. I assumed he had perhaps caught himself on a piece of rock, or had perhaps been the victim of aiptasia or something hiding away in my tank. He seemed perfectly fine other than this mark, so decided I was just going to keep an eye on him.

Fast forward a few days later, and the mark has gone a tiny, tiny little bit puffy or perhaps swollen, but definitely less red so it looks to me like it's healing. However, the fish has taken to sitting still on the sand from time to time and not always remaining upright when he does so. It is always in the same spot, and not all the time, as other times he swims around perfectly normally. However, I am becoming concerned because the amount of time he spends not swimming seems to be increasing and he seems to be more and more on his side when he's sat there.

I've had a look at this website: http://www.chucksaddiction.com/disease.html
But it doesn't seem to match anything on there, and I am of the opinion it's probably just a cut which may or may not be healing, and may or may not be infected.

I'm not the type to throw medications about willy-nilly, but as it seems to be getting slightly worse at the moment I thought I'd best ask advice on whether I should do something or just hang in there and see what happens.

Thanks :)
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Inverts: 2 cleaner shrimp, 4 hermit crabs, 1 trochus snail, 1 feather duster

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Reply #1

Hi,

Maybe it was stung (the red mark) and the puffiness with swelling is its healing.

It may act differently while wounded, lots of fish do, but I wouldn't expect it to act very differently...

Take a photo, and either post it, and/or just keep it to look back on to track the healing/infection.

For now just keep it as stress free as possible.
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As above, lets have a pic.
I should really sort this out!!

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Update:

I did try taking some pictures before posting this thread, but they move too fast and my camera wasn't good enough to get anything worthwhile.

A day or two after making this thread, the wound stopped being puffy and developed into what looked like two large white spots, though on closer inspection they were not round, but sort of spiky, and they appeared to be coming loose. Definitely not ich, and didn't look like anything else from the link I posted earlier.

They've since come off, and the red mark has almost completely disappeared now. I'm thinking perhaps the white "spots" were scales that he pulled when he supposedly grazed himself. I know some parasites will drop off in order to attach to a new host, so I will continue to monitor the situation.

The current state of affairs is that he's now stopped acting differently and is back to his normal, active self, and the red mark has almost completely gone now, so I'm hoping that's the end of the matter.
155L Fluval Osaka with sump
Fish: 2 ocellaris clowns, 1 firefish, 1 yellow clown goby
Inverts: 2 cleaner shrimp, 4 hermit crabs, 1 trochus snail, 1 feather duster

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Reply #4

Sounds good.  Well done, as he's obviously strong to pull through.

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Bloody fish. they make us worry !! My nem shrunk right up last night and i was watching it for ages thinking it was struggling. got in from work this morning. fully inflated and looking perfect. couldn't wait to get home and check though. always something going on in this hobby !!

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Reply #6

Ash don't worry if your BTA deflates to a tiny straggly lump at night, they're just refreshing the water in their tissue. :)
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Reply #7

You'll notice it do it more if you change something. Do a water change, you'll bet it'll deflate that night...
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Yea it does it most nights ATM. i have been testing my water Daily and had an ever so slight tinge to my phosphate test but added some rowaphos in a media bag (the stupid little Juwel filter box has found a use) it went completely clear the following evening. i dosed some calcium to pick my calcium levels up a touch and by god did it shrink. the other morning i came down down and it wrapped itself into a ball almost.

Glad the clownfish is o.k though i would hate to lose my clowns the first 2 things that went into my tank and have probably almost doubled in size. :)

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As some of you know, I've been wanting to get a firefish for ages now, at least two and a half months. I kept saying next payday, then plans got put back so I said the payday after that. Then my personal life went absolutely mental, and I just didn't have time to go and get my new fish. Then, just as my personal life starts to relax again, this happens! I didn't want to add my new fish then as there was a risk I'd be introducing outside infection, and if what the clownfish had was contagious, I'd just be adding another fish to be infected.

Fortunately the little guy seems to be alright again now. Wound is about a third of the size it was and is fading fast. All being well, I should be getting my firefish on Thursday. So much has happened along the way to stop me from getting this firefish that I swear it's not meant to be.
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Reply #10

Don't get it! Sods law it'll jump within 2 hours of being in the tank.
They are twitchy lil beggars, they tend to just set off in the direction they're facing until they leave the water or bounce of summat.

Have you got covers or egg crate?

They gorgeous fish. Which colour you gonna get?
I should really sort this out!!

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Good luck, they're lovely fish.

Just make sure you've a tightly fitted lid as they jump...
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Reply #12

Lol cross posted exactly the same advice.
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Lol, I just noticed! Ha, this time you had the concise post I just rambled on.
I should really sort this out!!

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Yeah, I've got the tank covered, with the weir and sump uncovered to keep the oxygen levels where they should be. I know it's not ideal, but I've already had one fish completely vanish off the face of the earth (may or may not have jumped out - I've never found it), so I keep the tank covered. I'm actually looking to replace the lid I have now for better light penetration, but that's another story.

I like the look of both varieties of firefish, so I'm still deciding.

Red Pros
+ My favourite colour is red
+ Only £20 in my LFS as opposed to £40 for a purple one
+ Seem to glow more under the blue lights

Red Cons
- Everyone has the red ones
- Similar in colour to the clownfish I already have, thus reducing the potential variety of colour in my final tank

Purple Pros
+ More unsual
+ More colour variety for my tank

Purple Cons
- I'll be paranoid about killing a £20 fish. I'll be double paranoid about killing a £40 fish, especially since I'm still a beginner and I "lost" one of the two fish I started off with.
- Not sure if I like the look so much.

Ultimately though, it'll likely just go with whatever I like the look of when I go in the LFS on the day. I've been in there before, certain that I wanted this one or that one, and changed my mind when I actually look at them. Money isn't really a problem, it just makes the consequences if I kill it a little more annoying. When I lost that clownfish they tested my water and everything was fine and they replaced it free of charge, which was very honorable of them, so that gives me a little piece of mind. I also plan to expand my CUC this week too. I'd like some different critters as well as more of what I already have, but don't know what to go for yet.

My lighting unit is 4 T5 bulbs, but I'm only running three at the moment. I know iQuatics do purple bulbs and I don't know if one of those would help bring out the colours, especially in a purple fish, a little more?
Last Edit: Sep 2, 2013 8:26:23 pm by CezzaXV
155L Fluval Osaka with sump
Fish: 2 ocellaris clowns, 1 firefish, 1 yellow clown goby
Inverts: 2 cleaner shrimp, 4 hermit crabs, 1 trochus snail, 1 feather duster

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