Clownfish is struggling - advice?

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Reply #15

I liked the the fins on the red and especially like the colour blend too,

The purples have amaxing colours but shorter fins not as pretty.
I should really sort this out!!

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Reply #16

Just a get a pair of both.  That's what I did.
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Reply #17

My tank isn't very big. A pair of both would be my tank just about filled. :P

I was planning on getting just the one, as I heard they do best alone unless you get a mated pair. That is correct, right?
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Inverts: 2 cleaner shrimp, 4 hermit crabs, 1 trochus snail, 1 feather duster

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Reply #18

That is right. When you go to the shop get in close and really study the fish and mannerisms.  Make sure it's feeding, if it's fins are  in good shape no rips etc.
Did you say you have a pair of clowns?
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Reply #19

I do, yes.
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Reply #20

A mated pair? If yes does the female rush your hand?
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Reply #21

I didn't buy them as a mated pair, but it's possible they may have become mated I guess. I originally bought two clownfish, a male and female, and as I mentioned earlier, one of them (the male) completely vanished off the face of the earth. Went back to the LFS and they were kind enough to replace the male free of charge. Put the new male in and I didn't think it was going to work as the female seemed aggressive to the newcomer, but the next day they were absolutely fine, swim around perfectly peacefully together and I've not had any problems since. I do see the male do a thing where he goes on his side and sort of vibrates next to the female from time to time, which I think I read is a sign of submission.

Got no plans to breed at the moment, so I've not done any reading on the subject of mated pairs. They're not killing or being aggressive to each other, and that's good enough for me. :P

The only time I ever really put my hands in the tank is feeding time, and they're both rushing me then. They're both very much aware when food is coming.
Last Edit: Sep 2, 2013 10:06:44 pm by CezzaXV
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Reply #22

The only thing I would think about would be if the female clown decides to defend her territory.
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Reply #23

True, although from what I understand, territory issues are a concern with a great deal of marine fish. I decided to add the clownfish first as they're less territorial than the firefish and I should build my way up, but it's always going to be an issue.
Last Edit: Sep 3, 2013 7:12:46 pm by CezzaXV
155L Fluval Osaka with sump
Fish: 2 ocellaris clowns, 1 firefish, 1 yellow clown goby
Inverts: 2 cleaner shrimp, 4 hermit crabs, 1 trochus snail, 1 feather duster

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Reply #24

Do you think you'll regret going for the purple?  Sounds like you really want the red.  I say go for the one you really want.  You can add more colour with other fish, but don't buy anything you're not in love with.

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Reply #25

I like them both, but I think I prefer the red. I've seen some beautiful purple ones, but I've seen some that don't look so good. I wrote out that list of pros and cons, but it'll likely be a spur of the moment decision when I'm in the LFS. At the moment I'm saying red, but I'm not ruling out that I could change my mind when I get there.

While we're on the subject of livestock purchases, I plan at some point to add a scarlet skunk cleaner shrimp to my tank. I could have sworn when I was reading up on them back along that they require a mature tank, but I'm looking again now and I can't find anywhere that says that. Can anyone shed some light?

Also, has anyone had any issues with dwarf blue legged hermit crabs? I've heard they can kill snails for their shells, but don't know whether this is a thing that happens often.
Last Edit: Sep 3, 2013 10:26:13 pm by CezzaXV
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Inverts: 2 cleaner shrimp, 4 hermit crabs, 1 trochus snail, 1 feather duster

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Reply #26

Just make sure the purple one you've seen isn't the helfriki (spelling) cause they are pricey lil beggars.
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Reply #27

Didn't see your whole post.
Blue leg herms will take out what ever they have to in order to get a shell. Even if you have spares laying around.
I had a few  and ended up with just one as they would fight one another for shells.
I think the only truly reef safe herm is the dwarf\micro type and the orange legged type ( not Halloween).
That's my experience.
Just have one!
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Reply #28

Cleaner shrimp don't need a mature tank.  Yours will be fine.  I've had two that have been in there since it was about three months old.  They're definitely happy, as have seen them with eggs :grin:

I've also had a small blues egged hermit for a long time - one of the first cuc to go in.  Not seen it attack anything. 

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Reply #29

Awesome, I shall add a cleaner shrimp to my shopping list tomorrow. I'd like two, but I think I'll get one to begin with, just so I can establish that I can successfully keep one alive. I can't find any evidence that having one and then adding another later will be a problem, either from the perspective of having one on it's own for a while, or territory issues when adding a second. Do tell me if I'm missing something though.

(I've also just discovered what happens when you have more than two cleaner shrimp. Not sure what to say to that :P )

Already got three red legged hermit crabs, though I'd like a few more. I'll check out what dwarf varieties the LFS has tomorrow though, as I'd ideally like some different types of crabs as well as more of what I already have.

I have read about how the shrimps need iodine to molt properly. Seeing as I'm a FOWLR at the moment with presumably very little to nothing to be using up iodine, is that something I should start testing/dosing for, or am I likely fine with the levels that come in with the salt?
Last Edit: Sep 4, 2013 10:47:36 pm by CezzaXV
155L Fluval Osaka with sump
Fish: 2 ocellaris clowns, 1 firefish, 1 yellow clown goby
Inverts: 2 cleaner shrimp, 4 hermit crabs, 1 trochus snail, 1 feather duster

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