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Reply #15

I'm honestly in no position to disagree with anyone I just wondered what you meant. I'll maybe try some reef safe bacterial medicine and try and keep an eye on it?

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Reply #16

Bless you ,you are in an equal position to anyone,just because you havent been doing it so long means nothing.
If I have misunderstood you then I apologise,the written word is a difficult thing.Its just that we all give opinions andyou are free to agree or disagree. It wasnt meant to come accross as agressive,Im honestly not subtle when I want to have a go ;)


No dont dump stuff in wait at least till we see some more opinions.
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Reply #17

I could be imagining it but I think this is just getting worse before my eyes! It's tail is just wasting away?

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Oh sh*t ,poor little bugger. I am sorry Chris.
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Reply #19

Just a bit gutted because I've no idea why or what's caused it. I rehomed my valentini puffer on Saturday because we decided we wanted corals and I've added the green mushroom coral on Sunday and some Green star polyps today. That's the only things that have changed. Both corals seem to be doing great as is my other clown and all the other critters in the tank including loads of tiny baby snails that seem to have appeared from no where!

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Reply #20

Problem is not all fish are born equal,he could have been small not because he was going to be the boy,but because he was lacking in some way and not as we say in dogs a "good dooer"  The change over might have stressed him just a little bit too much,his immune system stressed just that fraction too much ,he might indeed have been bullied as clowns have to establish whoes who when juvenile.
There is no way you will have known this might happen. Very sadly its a shit happens situation. Thier so small that theres seldom much in reserve to allow them to fight.
Now you could wake up tomorrow and hes fine but
I wouldnt hold my breath.
Maybe someone can pull a rabbit out the hat later tonight.
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Reply #21

Cheers Carol, have to just wait it out then. Thanks for all your help, I honestly wasn't trying to disagree with you earlier I think the stress of watching the fish like that plus the wish for someone to just give me a magic potion to fix it got the better of me!

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Reply #22

Hi Chris , sorry to hear what's happening , I'd suggest re testing ammonia & nitrite as two weeks may not be long enough to cure dry rock and even with the live rock in the tank the dry rock curing will still cause ammonia spikes as it goes through the process as far as I'm aware and should possibly been left to cure in a bucket with flow and heat and something to seed it with . I'd also check salinity too just to be on the safe side . Any of the other parameters you'd get away with being out a little nitrate mag alk calc etc .
Possibly consider something for finrot on hand , making sure whatever you pick up is reef safe or in QT tank .
If you need to test in the morning I have salifert kits for all and could pop over if you want ?

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Cheers Carol, have to just wait it out then. Thanks for all your help, I honestly wasn't trying to disagree with you earlier I think the stress of watching the fish like that plus the wish for someone to just give me a magic potion to fix it got the better of me!

Dont worry about it sweetpea, your allowed to disagree with me  ;) Im just sorry about whats happened
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Hi Chris , sorry to hear what's happening , I'd suggest re testing ammonia & nitrite as two weeks may not be long enough to cure dry rock and even with the live rock in the tank the dry rock curing will still cause ammonia spikes as it goes through the process as far as I'm aware and should possibly been left to cure in a bucket with flow and heat and something to seed it with . I'd also check salinity too just to be on the safe side . Any of the other parameters you'd get away with being out a little nitrate mag alk calc etc .
Possibly consider something for finrot on hand , making sure whatever you pick up is reef safe or in QT tank .
If you need to test in the morning I have salifert kits for all and could pop over if you want ?

That's exactly what I did with the Marco rock mate. I had it in a huge black bucket with heat and a small pump and I added about 20 Reef Balance bacteria pearls. Had it in there for about 10 days before the new tank arrived, maybe that wasn't long enough? Admittedly I did add that TMC live rock stuff last weekend (which was so well received on here😉)after only rinsing it but I thought it would be such a small percentage of the total rock I would get away with it. I don't understand why rock would cause an ammonia spike though when I didn't increase the bio load on the tank. The real live rock I already had was more than enough to deal with three fish so where is the extra ammonia being produced? That's a genuine question by the way, I'm not questioning your knowledge!

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Reply #25

Oh that purple stuff ....well logicaly if its something you added both fish would be in a state?
Im gonna bang on about weaker fish again ,it might be just the move simple as that..it was a pretty purple tho  ;)
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Reply #26

The rock would cause an ammonia spike because each bit has to go through the same cycle process as it gathers dirt in the pores with no bacteria there to digest it , this would start rotting causing ammonia and nitrite , as there is no good bacteria to provide the nitrification of the ammonia and nitrite to nitrate , this would cause the spike effect , the reading will then disappear because of the digestion of the ammonia and nitrite after the event by the existing live rock .
As far as I'm aware dry rock takes at least six weeks to cure , and must be seeded by either existing live rock or sand or from a bottle , and must be fed for the duration or the bacteria will die .
As carol says it could be too much for the weaker smaller fish .

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Reply #27

Ive learnt something here Gav,as I have only used LR I would have assumed the artificial stuff to be inert and bacteria to just set up home.  :(


I thought it would be all shiney and new and well inert...doh....
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Reply #28

That kind of makes send but bare with me here. The live rock and Marco rock are all mixed in and there's good flow in the tank. If live rock is the main filtration and the means by which harmful gasses are dealt with surely any excess of these wouldn't stay on the Marco rock as it would be moved and dealt with by the live rock. If I don't add any extra food or extra fish to create more waste surely the live rock that's in the tank is still filtering the same amount of waste regardless of whether the Marco has been seeded because the rock itself doesn't create waste?

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Reply #29

I'm going to ask the boss if I can splash out on a couple more Salifert kits tomorrow to go with my ammonia and phosphates ones. If she answers in the negative I might take you up on that offer to come over mate!

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