CYNO Help!!!

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Hey all so today i notices some cyno  creeping in so i tested water here are the results


KH = 8.0
P.H = 8.0
NH4 = 0.005
NO2 = 0,1
NO3 = 5
PO4 =  0.1

i have since testing the tank put some NP Bio pearls in has anyone got any tips?

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Reply #1

Nothing too much wrong in your parameters, phosphate could come down a little, but it's not terrible.

How bad is it?  Have you got a pic (under daylight not blues ideally)

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Reply #2

i will sort one out asap Andy :-)

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Reply #3

its not a bad amount Andy its just a small amount hope these pics help

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Reply #4

Looks more like diatoms to me?
Cyano forms this red/purple stringy covering that you can blow off the rock with a pipette.

Diatoms may be a result of silicate in water? Do you make your own RO water? How hard is the water you use to make RO and is it 0 TDS?

I think seachem phosguard lowers both phosphate and silicate and may be worth a try. I think it gets depleted quickly though and is similar to rowaphos (not sure if rowaphos tackles silicate)


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Reply #5

In my experience some cyano while the tank matures isnt all that unusual. My advice would be ensure your normal maintenance is tip top (regular water changes, siphon sand bed...) and clean your filter socks very regularly (ideally daily). Hopefully should pass in a couple of weeks if you stay on top of it

If you wanted to use lotions and potions then have had success with Vibrant in the past (but be careful if you have inverts)

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Reply #6

the  pink stuff could be cyano,  it's hardly any though. I agree with @marine_newbie that the brown dusty stuff looks like diatoms

It's a new tank isn't it?  As  @mightyhatter says it's pretty normal to get this in the early days  8D There's nothing too concerning there,  it may well go on its own as the tank settles in
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Reply #7

hey guys sorry i am late to the party.




II do make my own rodi water guys yeah and my own salt water however i havnt got as of yet a tds meter but it is at the very top of my list. i have also been sat here racking my (hammer coral) brains lol and i also agree that it dose look more like diatoms just seems to have a pink tinge to it but at the same time also it is a fairly new set up and would be coming to the end of its cycle beings as its out on the nitrate abit. but am i right in saying that the nitrate could go as high as like 20ppm and still its ok?


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Reply #8

Nitrates can go really high (lots of public aquariums will run at levels in the 100s) but thats where your water changes/ skimmer/ fuge comes in. If the tank has just cycled then make sure your skimmer is tuned in (if you have one) and do a couple of decent water changes.

The absolute number is less important than a stable number. On a new system you want to aim for under 10 i would suggest and that should give a decent basis for things to mature and for your initial inhabitants to adjust

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Reply #9

Nitrate and nitrite and ammonia should be 0 really 
Partial water change and add some
Thing like stability will help ph wants to be around 8.3 so you’re not far out on that
There are critters and fish that eat it to help .
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Reply #10

Diamond watchman goby is a good idea he will sift sub straight and keep it all looking clean also conch snail eats it (well mine does ) zerrif snails eat it there’s a few other snails that do as well
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Reply #11

hey guys sorry its taken me a while to come back to you all things have been crazy hectic here!! Right so this is where we are at unfortunately (whilst in the helipad ( hospital) it was as i had feared it was cyno it went that thick purply stringy red that shifted as i blew it with a baster i have since customed the skimmer where by i can have it gushing with bubbles and flowing into cup without spilling as i drilled bottom of cup and attached drainage airline with a stopper on the end have only done that this afternoon so its just a waiting game now!


Tomorrow (strength permitting) i plan on doing a water change too bearing in mind this is only a wee 90 litre tank! if this was you would you go for a 50% water change? or more? or less? plans to add a sump to the system are in place but still off the road so have no way or getting to the glass merchants to collect glass.


in regards to coral and fish all seem to be great just the same its just that unsightly cyno GACK lol will await further advise from you all


Hope i can get rid of this without any use of chemicals
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Hope you are alright!

Re cyano I think it’s a waiting game. Ultimately you want beneficial bacteria to take up the niche that cyano is currently holding. I suspect that only when PO4 has come down enough you will have a chance. In the meantime keep removing, siphon it off to avoid spreading it. Maybe try rowaphos or phosguard or something similar, these are good at reducing PO4 slowly. There are more aggressive potions but too fast can be detrimental to corals etc. There are also cyano treatments but personally I don’t have experience and I would go for natural route first. Removing the cause works better than continued treatment...


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Reply #13

Hi, helipad doesn't sound good, hope you're alright!

What are your NO3 and PO4 at the moment?

Agree with @marine_newbie  - if you don't want to use chemicals then the easiest thing to do is a small water change (5-10% or something) while using the syphon to suck out as much of the red slime as possible.  When it comes back, hit it again! Eventually (hopefully) it stops coming back...
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Reply #14

hey Gerben thank you my friend


I will be ok just have to rest up lol was a ticker problem (nothing new) lol ok will continue to syphon as it settles i will also preform another test on P04 in a minute and post results. will that work out ok regarding what i have done with the skimmer and also if so do i have the overflow pipe continually running into tank? this is a new venture for me lol will await your advice


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