What would be good seeding things for dead rock

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Hi i am thinking of making my own live rock to start getting back into marine tanks or start up a frag/rock selling and was wondering what would be the best seed material so far the plan is :

Use my 3 8ft round paddlepools to make tanks
1 for cureing raw rocks (where salt can disolve and harden etc
2nd for seeding - thinking basic planton,few live rocks as seed materials and some pods etc
3rd will be a finished/holding tank

The tanks look like http://www.kiddiescreek.com/345-934-thickbox/paddle-pool.jpg

What would the best things to include in the seed tank be to get a huge all in one type rock also can table salts etc from shops be used for making live rock holes

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Hi are you doing it with the plan to sell it on?

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Yep eather sell it on or use some of it when i have the cash for a big tank/as frag tank or fish breed tank (like keep some clownfish and frags in some of the final)
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Have you been keeping marine very long :)

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Kinda i used to keep some clownfish that started laying and what sounded like a pistol shrimp (it was always hidden and came with the live rock i brought as hitchhiker but i heard loud clicking sounds) but they died when i moved houses and since then i havent booted it back up due to money

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Live rock and seeded rock are 2 different things.
Live rock is straight out of the ocean, so people will expect the good hitchhikers and bad :)
Seeded rock I would say has all the bacteria ready to go to eat ammonia, nitrite and nitrate.

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 Are you really considering running a Marine setup in a swimming pool?!  :scared:

How would you manage heating, evaporation, contamination, predators and the salt bill?

I'm intrigued  :grin:

2500l capacity for that pool.
Over 90kg of salt for the initial fill. Times 3 if I'm reading your initial post correctly.
Heating 7500l of water outside in winter would cost the earth.
I imagine you would loose well over 100l of water a day through evaporation.

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Are you really considering running a Marine setup in a swimming pool?!  :scared:

How would you manage heating, evaporation, contamination, predators and the salt bill?

I'm intrigued  :grin:

2500l capacity for that pool.
Over 90kg of salt for the initial fill. Times 3 if I'm reading your initial post correctly.
Heating 7500l of water outside in winter would cost the earth.
I imagine you would loose well over 100l of water a day through evaporation.

Well right now im thinking while its hot weather let sun do its job :D first tank doesnt need salt as its plain water to dissolve the rock salt etc in the rocks i build to make the holes etc
Second tank will be seed tank and this will be where the rocks sit and grow coraline absorb pods etc (rocks dont need much heat :D)
3rd tank not sure yet might be a indoor holding one or something and if i get some interest the rocks i make will hopefully get me enough to get a better setup or bigger pools with heaters etc in :D
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The next step is to make the rocks suitable to be placed into an aquarium, and that requires soaking your rocks in fresh water. First, wash off loose material, and then soak the rocks in water that you change every couple of days. This allows the salt to fully dissolve and the cement to stabilize. When the water is at a pH of around 7.5 and salt content is zero, the rock is ready. This may take up to a week depending on the size of your rocks, but don’t rush it.

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Don't take this wrong but you living a bit of a pipe dream saying getting coralline ect growing for that to happen the water chemistry has to be right and the potential for contamination using pools is immense if you are thinking it will be a quick money spinner to fund a new tank for yourself you are mistaken.

The fact you have had to ask what's needed shows you still have a lot to lean or you would know exactly what's needed and the processes needed.


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Don't take this wrong but you living a bit of a pipe dream saying getting coralline ect growing for that to happen the water chemistry has to be right and the potential for contamination using pools is immense if you are thinking it will be a quick money spinner to fund a new tank for yourself you are mistaken.

The fact you have had to ask what's needed shows you still have a lot to lean or you would know exactly what's needed and the processes needed.

ok and this was more i was bored and wanted to try making my own rocks and the reason for the pools was argos had 3 for 2 and a half off on it so i got 3 pools for the price of £40 lol :) worst case is it fails and i have a pool for me and a quarentine/frag tank and spare tank for my tropical fish (barbs)
I will be doing a test batch soon and will probably record it and see what happens

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Your hardest job is going to be keeping everything in check and make sure no contamination gets in there or a puncture !!

What rocks are you actually planning on using where you going to buy them from.

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Your hardest job is going to be keeping everything in check and make sure no contamination gets in there or a puncture !!

What rocks are you actually planning on using where you going to buy them from.

Im going to test out a rock recipe of crushed coral concrete and sand etc with rocksalt which will disolve to make the holes for bacteria etc then ill probally by some rubble or something online

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Reply #12

You will be testing and see if there is any leaching or if it's altering the PH of the water and that then.

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Mostly if the rock resipe work and is stable  etc great ill use it and try sell abit if not owell i have a pool to soak in and fish can expand from a 4ftx2x2 tank  to a 8  round one and  if it works really well then it might make enough profit to expand to bigger etc

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