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Reply #1

Hi, John.

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A 6x2x2.5? Nice tank.  :glad: Have you kept marines before?

Herbie method is similar to twin standpipe. You still need two holes. I'd use twin standpipe, there's lots of variation on exactly what constitutes "herbie" method, but twin standpipe is flood proof and the most reliable and silent tank to sump draining method there is.

You have two pipes, one taller than the other in the weir. The shorter one has a ball valve on it. Both go into the sump just beneath the surface. That's it. The water is restricted with the ball valve and so the pressure increases on it, and it finds a balance in the weir. If something blocks the ball valve or your return pump speeds up, it'll rise and drain down the unrestricted taller overflow, that'll make a noise, alerting you to the problem, but will take all the excess water no problem anyway, so it's faultless.

Do you have a picture of the sump layout? Which end of your tank is the weir?
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Reply #2

Yeah, a bigger volume of water is more stable, so counterintuitively a bigger tank is easier to manage especially as a beginner.  :glad:

Sounds like the 6 inch section is for the drains from the tank, so should be on the right. That'd then mean the leftmost chamber is for the return pump, and the middle for the skimmer, etc.

Although it really depends how the baffles cascade, so a picture would be useful.
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Reply #3

Ah, looking at how that's laid out, the first (from the left) chamber, and the 2nd with the skimmer are the same chamber, that's just a divider, to house filter socks and trap bubbles, etc. The water level in those two chambers will be the same.

The return pump would go in that rightmost chamber.

So is this sump in the cabinet the wrong way around then if the weir is on the right? You wouldn't want loads of plumbing going right across the length of the tank if it's not necessary.

Have a look at my tank thread as the sump and tank is similar.
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Reply #4

I have exactly the same sump here is some pictures of mine only difference is your chamber all the way to the the left is for top up water.

Your skimmer is in the wrong chamber that's the return chamber






As you can see above I added a divide to the first chamber and put a shelf in so I run filter floss instead of a sock that will always need washing !!

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Reply #5

If you want some better pictures of my sump let me know ill take some easy for you :)

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Reply #6

Marty would you put some pics up of the section with the filter wool please as want to get rid of the filter sock on mine

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Give me 5 mins ill take some pics :)

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Reply #8

Here you go mate I use filter wool that I buy in 1m x 1m sheets about £12 lasts me 2 months easy







That is media grid the black stuff.

Anything else you need pictures of as mine is an ND setup :)

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Reply #9

As you can see it collects a lot of rubbish I change mine weekly :)

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Reply #10

Ah, @Marty is that leftmost baffle sealed fully then? So it's an RO chamber?

If that's the case then yeah, skimmer needs moving along one. It's hard to see from the picture I assumed it was open at the bottom.
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Reply #11

Yeah I dont have that RO chamber in my sump but that is defo what that is.

Looking back I wish I had gone for it but to late now


If I was the OP I would divide first chamber as I have for pre filter and skimmer in pictures just add a piece of glass then use middle for cheato,reactors , heaters ect
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Reply #12

I would defo divided the chamber to right into 2 as I have make sure the second part you get from dividing that 1st chamber into 2 is big enough to house the skimmer.

Here is my middle section



Pellet reactor, carbon in reactor amd phos media.

Cheato laid ontop of 10 kilo of biohome media


And yes put the return pump in furthest chamber to left after the bubble trap this will stop micro bubbles :)

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Reply #13

I would go 6mm glass as I did and measure the internal width amd go 1mm smaller I left a 30mm gap or there abouts at bottom.

Then get a piece of wood or something around 30mm to lay on bottom place the baffle onto that that will set the gap.

I then laid a tea towel either side of the pane in the sump and used a house brick or what ever you chose to hold it upright and square then I put a bead of silicone on the joints has to be proper aquarium stuff and takes 24 hours to cure here one I done ealier






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Reply #14

Forgot to say when you get the glass cut tell them it's for a fish tank as there is a particular type they will use.

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