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hi, so im getting tons of info from different people about how to start my aquarium up. im getting told i dont have to wait a month before introducing coral and fish as a algae bloom can happen at anytime anyway, im being told to wait a month until thinking about fish and coral, also what waters best im being told that nsw is better and others are telling me to stay away from it, so im not sure what my next step should be as all this different info has become confusing.

any help would be appreciated

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I think it's all dependant on personal preference and ideas of a marine tank, my personal experience and how I was taught was to set the tank up running with live rock and wait a month useing an ammonia source such as an old prawn and test everyday until it had cycled properly useing a bacteria supplement

I would like to have tried NSW but I'm in West Yorkshire and don't fancy travelling every week to get more water and also wanted to control pests and nasty bacteria getting into my tank.
So this time around I went with man made rock (pest free) everything is set up and running and using a ammonia source as ammonia chloride I think it is (I'm away from the bag don't hold me to the name but it's a powdered chemical) and so far so good I use RODI water I make myself so have all the control on that and just testing every day again.

You probably will get an algae bloom in the first few months no matter what that's completley normal
Alot of my research and videos watched was BRS on YouTube and alot of people rate them so iv tended to aim towards those types protocols and procedures

I thought it's exciting that there is so many different ways of setting a tank up and when I upgrade/set another up I'll try a different method :)

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Welcome to the forum.

The problem stems from some folks still use the older methods ,does not mean they are wrong ,just different.

Modern thinking where we use LR and skimmers you can have it with fish in ,in a week. The older thinking was you had to seed a filter because there  were no skimmers or LR. So no nitrifying bacteria in the system.

I started when we only had UG filters bleached dead coral and had to seed via a couple of Black Mollies .

Today I have sump systems , I fill with RO water add salt to correct salinity ,Turn on circulation pumps,lights, add coral sand if needed after a few days add LR , test for nitrate spike daily which often does not happen ,turn on skimmer . If all well test wise add a CUC , after a couple of days a couple of small fish...Steadily add from there so as not to overburden the system too soon.

As a novice I would advise you to stay away from NSW . 


 
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I think it's all dependant on personal preference and ideas of a marine tank, my personal experience and how I was taught was to set the tank up running with live rock and wait a month useing an ammonia source such as an old prawn and test everyday until it had cycled properly useing a bacteria supplement

I would like to have tried NSW but I'm in West Yorkshire and don't fancy travelling every week to get more water and also wanted to control pests and nasty bacteria getting into my tank.
So this time around I went with man made rock (pest free) everything is set up and running and using a ammonia source as ammonia chloride I think it is (I'm away from the bag don't hold me to the name but it's a powdered chemical) and so far so good I use RODI water I make myself so have all the control on that and just testing every day again.

You probably will get an algae bloom in the first few months no matter what that's completley normal
Alot of my research and videos watched was BRS on YouTube and alot of people rate them so iv tended to aim towards those types protocols and procedures

I thought it's exciting that there is so many different ways of setting a tank up and when I upgrade/set another up I'll try a different method :)

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I just love watching all the beasties in the LR,yes Ive had a few I dont want ,like Teddy Bear crabs ,but soft corals come on rock so you will always get something. Once had a pretty big Eunice worm  :scared: Peacock Mantis...
Do not mock the snake because it has no horns.For who is to say that one day it may become a dragon,as one just man may become an army...Water Margin.

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I agree you will be given loads of advice as to the 'best' way to do things. If this is your first tank I would agree with Carol and stay away from NSW. I would suggest either mixing your own (RO + Salt) or getting ready mixed water from your LFS if you don't fancy/ can't make your own.


From that point on the key thing is ensuring your tank has the good bacteria and no toxic levels of ammonia which would harm the livestock. You can do the long cycle (normally 3-4 weeks) where things happen gradually, or you can use some bottled bacteria which speeds the process along (typically then you don't get the ammonia spike and so this is the way you can add fish and corals more quickly). Either work (I have personally used both in the past and both worked fine) and it is really down to personal preference and circumstances (in particular how patient you are!)


My advice would be pick a route which you feel comfortable with and stick with it (there are very few 'wrong' options). Feel free to ask any questions you might have along the way - I have always found this to be a very friendly and helpful forum - Good Luck


(I would also agree with bstayman that BRS videos are really good, I also like saltwateraquarium vids too)

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I just love watching all the beasties in the LR,yes Ive had a few I dont want ,like Teddy Bear crabs ,but soft corals come on rock so you will always get something. Once had a pretty big Eunice worm  :scared: Peacock Mantis...
I loved watching stuff crawl out of my love rock but do NOT want an nasty beasties this time round as they'll be no chance of me getting them out with where my tank is lol

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I just love watching all the beasties in the LR,yes Ive had a few I dont want ,like Teddy Bear crabs ,but soft corals come on rock so you will always get something. Once had a pretty big Eunice worm  :scared: Peacock Mantis...

If you ever get a Mantis contact me, have a 12G long (36*10*10 inch) that I have sat aside for one

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hi, so im getting tons of info from different people about how to start my aquarium up. im getting told i dont have to wait a month before introducing coral and fish as a algae bloom can happen at anytime anyway, im being told to wait a month until thinking about fish and coral, also what waters best im being told that nsw is better and others are telling me to stay away from it, so im not sure what my next step should be as all this different info has become confusing.

any help would be appreciated

Mind giving a few details about your system?
Tank and size, how much rock, was it live?
What is your filtration and flow
Finally what do you want to keep in your reef?

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Reply #8

Hi and welcome.
Just to add to the others, ALL reef tanks work eventually unless the owner doesn't want to get involved. As an example, mine is using living rock that's been in a the tank 20+ years, and I'm waiting for the Nitrates to go down, two months in, nothing in the tank.
Maybe I should've used inert/new rock, who's to say? There is no right or wrong way, just different ways.
I'm learning still, and as Carol said, things have changed over the years, it's actually become easier, especially with the internet that I didn't have at the beginning.
No advice really from me other than take your time and don't try and rush things, glean what info you can from these posts, ask any questions you want, they're  a very friendly bunch here.

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If you ever get a Mantis contact me, have a 12G long (36*10*10 inch) that I have sat aside for one

Noooo....not sharing lol...I used to feed it and it didnt cause a problem.  <3
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Hi and welcome.
Just to add to the others, ALL reef tanks work eventually unless the owner doesn't want to get involved. As an example, mine is using living rock that's been in a the tank 20+ years, and I'm waiting for the Nitrates to go down, two months in, nothing in the tank.
Maybe I should've used inert/new rock, who's to say? There is no right or wrong way, just different ways.
I'm learning still, and as Carol said, things have changed over the years, it's actually become easier, especially with the internet that I didn't have at the beginning.
No advice really from me other than take your time and don't try and rush things, glean what info you can from these posts, ask any questions you want, they're  a very friendly bunch here.

I was real  lucky ,terrified of marines . The owner of my LFS took me under his wing way back in the 70’s . When we moved up here 1996 the power was unreliable so it wasnt till nearly 1999 that I started up again, getting on the internet it had all changed so much methods etc..and since then it has evolved even more .

As you say ,very friendly here and no oneupmanship  . We all remember how we were once novices .
Do not mock the snake because it has no horns.For who is to say that one day it may become a dragon,as one just man may become an army...Water Margin.

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Noooo....not sharing lol...I used to feed it and it didnt cause a problem.  <3

LFS trying to order me one, well a little one

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LFS trying to order me one, well a little one

Very very clever  and beautiful ,just like me... lol lol lol Dont forget the picture when you get one.
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Hi & welcome. I’m one of the people who use the old school methods. I use live sand, live rock, and didn’t use any additives other than a biological filter starter with a bit of carbon dosing when it was needed.
It’s taught me to observe & research each of the natural cycling stages as it progressed, and taught me the patience much required in this hobby. I use RO & salt mix in my main tank and QT with NSW in my wild tank, where I grow the live food. My favourite has been to observe each of the new life forms that come in stages. 18 months after set up there is still new things popping out of my live rock. I’ve had small problems at times like anyone else but the folks on here are there to assist you through these. Enjoy every moment & look forward to your aquarium progressing.


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Hi, Thankyou all for your info and help, im most likely going to go down the route of adding a little coral maybe some toadstall and a pair of clowns in over the next couple of days and await the algie bloom and tackle that when it happens, i have a 100l nano tank with caribsea rock in atm, i plan on having some coral a pair of clowns and a reef safe starfish, the water i baught with the tank from a LFS wasnt correctly mixed and the silinity levels are at just under 1.20 so its kind of put me of getting my water from them as i live 2 min walk from the sea i thought it would be an easyer and cheaper method.


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