Bad water?

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Morning all.  Has anyone experienced bad/off water from your LFS?

We've been having high nitrate readings for a few days (40) despite water changes, carbon and marine balls. On a whim tested the fresh marine water we've got in containers from a LFS (bought 3 days ago) and the nitrate readings were high (35). So we've been adding 'bad' water into our tank that was doing well.

Is this normal for bought water to have levels this high?

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Jase

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Reply #1

nope I get my water from lfs and is spot on no nitrates or phosphates

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Reply #2

Thought so. We'd been getting the water from Maidenhead and our water was all looking great - then went to a new place as £1 cheaper and this happened :(

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I pay 10 p a litre of RO and 20 p a litre for salt

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Cheaper is not always better as you've found out at your expense!

Some people just think of the money and don't care what they sell......I hope you get it sorted out.

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Reply #5

I've had similar experience, also heard the same from others, because of this I make my own RODI, it's so easy to do too. You'll have freshly made water all the time.
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Reply #6

I can't say the name out but I know one of my LFSs has even used straight water from tap as R.O. to sell to his customers ... :(

Better make my own R.O. water.

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Reply #7

Wow, no it should be zero. Should be made with RO with a TDS of less than 10, using a good salt, and should have zero nitrates and phosphate. It's impossible to get nitrates and phosphates down if the source water is contributing too.

In the long run, especially if you're upgrading to a bigger tank, maybe your own RODI unit would be a good investment?
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Reply #8

Agree. Should be zero if they're selling it.  Depends who you ask, but a lot will only accept zero, whereas others will let TDS get to 10 before it's considered a no no.

Also agree with buying an RODI unit and mixing your own salt. Far cheaper in the long run.
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Was thinking of making it - but though I'll leave it up to the experts while I learn a bit more...   Hmm. A typical case of If you want something doing properly do it yourself.

Got water from our usual LFS today so hopefully things will sort themselves out and can get some better readings soon!

Guess I better get on to looking at making my own water then! :)

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Quote from: catfishgibbs on Today at 11:01:39 pm

Guess I better get on to looking at making my own water then! :)

Once you start to make your own you'll wonder why you didn't do it sooner.

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Reply #11

There's nothing to it. No skill needed.

Produce the required amount of water, get it up to temperature, add the required salt, add a powerhead, come back later. Test with hydrometer or refractometer to make sure salinity is correct.

Only important thing is that you add the salt to the water, never the water to the salt!
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Reply #12

I remember the first time making my own water for the new tank not so long ago... It was the longest wait ever (almost 3 days) :( but it was worth it ... and many thanks again to @i-CONICA for the advice to add salt to water AND not the other way round.


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Reply #13

Is the adding salt to water not water to salt to ensure even dissolving of the salt?


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^ or is that advice similar to sending a newbie off to the store to buy a left handed screwdriver and tartan paint?  lol

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